Pac-12 Survivor Pool Official Thread

[Applejack]

OK party people. I've always liked the idea of a survivor pool, but I don't watch the NFL so I'm at a severe disadvantage. So, I've decided to create our very own Utahby5 Pac-12 survivor pool. I've been kicking this idea around for the past few days and I think I'm ready to launch to the masses. Everyone on this board is REQUIRED to participate, even if you are a lurker, a BYU fan, or a googlebot. Thus, expect frequent reminder bumps each week.

I've tried to strike a balance between the simplicity of regular survivor pools (you pick one winner a week, can only pick once) and interest (I can't just let you choose "the team that plays Cal" every week). So, here are the basic groundrules:

1. Every week you have to pick one Pac-12 team to win against a FBS opponent. You cannot pick FCS games. Also, the team just has to win the game, not necessarily beat the spread.
2. You post that selection in this thread BEFORE the kickoff of your selected game.
3. If your selected team wins, you advance to the next week. If your selected team loses, you are eliminated and mocked.
4. You can only pick each team to win once. So, if you pick USC over Stanford in Week 2, you can't pick USC as your winner in any subsequent week.
5. You can only pick any particular team to lose once per year. For instance, if you pick USC over Stanford in Week 2, you can't pick against Stanford in any subsequent week, i.e. you couldn't pick UW over Stanford in Week 5.

So it's really pretty simple. You pick one Pac-12 team to win every week, excluding FBS games. You can't pick the same winner twice, and you can't pick the same loser twice. You'll note that there are 12 teams in the conference (hence the name) and 14 weeks in the season. So, if we get to Week 13 with more than one survivor, I'll make something up--this is called "beta testing" in the industry.

For handy reference, here is a grid of the Pac-12 games by week (this took me way too long to compile-the internet still has some holes).




Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Week 9
Week 10
Week 11
Week 12
Week 13
Week 14


Arizona
UNLV
@ UT San Antonio
Nevada
Cal
Bye
@ Oregon
USC
Bye
@WSU
@UCLA
Colorado
UW
@Utah
ASU


Arizona St
Weber (FCS)
@New Mexico
@ Colorado
Bye
UCLA
@ USC
Bye
Stanford
@UW
Utah
Notre Dame
@OSU
WSU
@Arizona


Colorado
Colorado St
@ Umass
ASU
Hawaii
@ Cal
OSU
Bye
@USC
UCLA
UW
@Arizona
Bye
@Oregon
Utah



UCLA
@ Virginia
Memphis
@ Texas
Bye
@ ASU
Utah
Oregon
@Cal
@Colorado
Arizona
@UW
Bye
USC
Stanford


USC
Fresno St
@ Stanford
@ B.C.
Bye
OSU
ASU
@Arizona
Colorado
@Utah
@WSU
Bye
Cal
@UCLA
Notre Dame


Utah
ISU (FCS)
Fresno St
Bye
@ Mich
WSU
@ UCLA
Bye
@ OSU
USC
@ASU
Oregon
@Stanford
Arizona
@Colorado


Cal
@ N'western
Sac St (FCS)
Bye
@Arizona
Colorado
@ WSU
UW
UCLA
Oregon
@OSU
Bye
@USC
Stanford
BYU


Oregon
S.D. (FCS)
Michigan St
Wyoming
@ WSU
Bye
Arizona
@ UCLA
UW
@Cal
Stanford
@Utah
Bye
Colorado
@OSU


Oregon St
Portland St (FCS)
@ Hawaii
Bye
SDSU
@ USC
@ Colorado
Bye
Utah
@Stanford
Cal
WSU
ASU
@UW
Oregon


Stanford
UC Davis (FCS)
USC
Army
Bye
@ UW
@ Notre Dame
WSU
@ ASU
OSU
@Oregon
Bye
Utah
@Cal
@UCLA


Washington
@ Hawaii
E. Washington (FCS)
Illinois
Georgia St
Stanford
Bye
@ Cal
@Oregon
ASU
@Colorado
UCLA
@Arizona
OSU
@WSU


Washington St
Rutgers
@ Nevada
Portland St (FCS)
Oregon
@ Utah
Cal
@Stanford
Bye
Arizona
USC
@OSU
Bye
@ASU
UW

[Mormon Red Death]

whoop here's my week 1 pick... Arizona

[Applejack]

Eligible week 1 games:



Arizona
UNLV


Colorado
Colorado St


UCLA
@ Virginia


USC
Fresno St


Cal
@Northwestern


Washington
@Hawaii


Washington St
Rutgers

[Applejack]

I also choose Arizona. But mostly because I hate the Rebls.

[Sullyute]

Ok, I just spent an hour and half trying to figure out my picks for the season so that I don't make any extra stupid mistakes. I feel pretty good about my picks until week 11 when I have Cal beating their bye week opponent.

I pick Washington State for the win.

[Applejack]

Ok, I just spent an hour and half trying to figure out my picks for the season so that I don't make any extra stupid mistakes. I feel pretty good about my picks until week 11 when I have Cal beating their bye week opponent.

I pick Washington State for the win.

I like your dedication, Sully! There are a lot of variable in this. Bye weeks screw things up (four teams have byes in the championship week) and the no-common-loser rule (Cal rule) makes things tricky too.

[Scratch]

Wazzu.

[chrisrenrut]

Washington St

[Scorcho]

I'll go UDUB

[sancho]

Arizona

[jrj84105]

You have FBS and FCS reversed. I propose that anyone who already posted without correcting that flaw is eliminated.

Week 1: Cal to win.

[UTEopia]

Wazzu

[Applejack]

You have FBS and FCS reversed. I propose that anyone who already posted without correcting that flaw is eliminated.

Week 1: Cal to win.

Your proposal has been rejected by the committee. I also incorrectly have the utes playing at wazzup. I'll fix those and any other errors people find when I get on a computer.

[sancho]

Real men are waiting till week 6 to pick Utah over ucla.

[hostile]

Colorado

I will likely be out the first week and my BIL will mock me for picking against his alma mater.

[Applejack]

Current picks:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte
Colorado: Hostile
UW: Scorcho
Cal: jr84105

[DrumNFeather]

I typically get bounced early in these things too...so I'll go Colorado.

[Applejack]

I should have mentioned that the winner of this most prestigious of contests will win a prize. It will be something Ute-related and probably something off of eBay. As an example, you might win this Josh Savage Saints practice jersey (http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOSH-SAVAGE-PRACTICE-JERSEY-NEW-ORLEANS-SAINTS-2007-UNIVERSITY-OF-UTAH-UTES-/201146724458?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item2ed547706a), this vintage 1998 final four snap-back hat (http://www.ebay.com/itm/UTAH-UTES-VINTAGE-1998-NCAA-FINAL-FOUR-SNAPBACK-HAT-SAN-ANTONIO-CHAMPIONSHIP-DS-/271568851772?pt=US_NCAA_Fan_Shop&hash=item3f3ac3d33c), or this double gem Utes belly ring (http://www.ebay.com/itm/UTAH-UTES-SILVER-RED-DOUBLE-GEM-BELLY-NAVEL-RING-NEW-/190705322921?pt=US_NCAA_Fan_Shop&hash=item2c66ec4ba9). Think of the possibilities!

[Applejack]

I typically get bounced early in these things too...so I'll go Colorado.

An excellent way to continue the streak.

[DrumNFeather]

An excellent way to continue the streak.

1208

[Applejack]

1208

Nice belt; for a cowboy formal.

[EutawStUtesFan]

Okay, I'll take a stab at this and go with Wazzu.

[Sullyute]

Okay, I'll take a stab at this and go with Wazzu.

I love your avatar!

[UTEopia]

Current picks:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte
Colorado: Hostile
UW: Scorcho
Cal: jr84105

What, my pick doesn't get registered? I'm guessing that this was on purpose because I am old. Wazzu!

[Applejack]

What, my pick doesn't get registered? I'm guessing that this was on purpose because I am old. Wazzu!

UPDATED:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET
Colorado: Hostile, DnF
UW: Scorcho
Cal: jr84105

[Diehard Ute]

I'll go Colorado

[Brian]

Washington

[Applejack]

Last update of the night:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard
UW: Scorcho, Brian
Cal: jr84105

[sancho]

So, you gonna keep track of who I've picked to win/lose? If not, I'm telling you right now that I intend to cheat.

[U-Ute]

Colorado.

[Applejack]

So, you gonna keep track of who I've picked to win/lose? If not, I'm telling you right now that I intend to cheat.

In week 1 the only opponents that face multiple Pac teams are Hawaii and Fresno. No one has picked USC yet, so I just have to keep track of Scorcho and Brian. Once the Pac season begins I'll start keeping track officially, but I expect to have fewer people to keep track of by then.

Current votes:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte
UW: Scorcho, Brian
Cal: jr84105[

[Jarid in Cedar]

A question here. Are we assuming that no one will make it through the season? Given that there is 14 weeks of games and only 12 teams.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Oh and i choose Wazzu

[sancho]

A question here. Are we assuming that no one will make it through the season? Given that there is 14 weeks of games and only 12 teams.

Somebody's been mapping out his season's picks!

[Applejack]

A question here. Are we assuming that no one will make it through the season? Given that there is 14 weeks of games and only 12 teams.

Please read all of the rules in the original post thoroughly before pestering me with questions.


You'll note that there are 12 teams in the conference (hence the name) and 14 weeks in the season. So, if we get to Week 13 with more than one survivor, I'll make something up--this is called "beta testing" in the industry.

[Applejack]

Current votes:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte
UW: Scorcho, Brian,
Cal: jr84105

Time to vote, holdouts. We've got three Pac games on Thursday!

[midnight shift]

I will go with Arizona.

[Damage U]

Damage goes with Wazzu week 1.
I'll save my Cal pick for week 14 ;) .

[Applejack]

Current votes:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte
UW: Scorcho, Brian,
Cal: jr84105

A lot of folks putting all of their eggs in the Wazzu basket in Week 1.

[SigmaUte]

1. Every week you have to pick one Pac-12 team to win against a FCS opponent. You cannot pick FBS games. Also, the team just has to win the game, not necessarily beat the spread.

Still hasn't been fixed btw.

Colorado is my week 1 pick.

[Applejack]

Still hasn't been fixed btw.

Colorado is my week 1 pick.

Thanks. Should be correct now.

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, Sigma
UW: Scorcho, Brian,
Cal: jr84105

[dfb32]

I'll go with Colorado.

[LA Ute]

I'm picking Washington to beat Hawaii.

I am not sure I completely understand the rules here. But I'm giving it a go.

[DrumNFeather]

I'm picking Washington to beat Hawaii.

I am not sure I completely understand the rules here. But I'm giving it a go.

We'll let you know if you're doing it all wrong.

[Applejack]

I'm picking Washington to beat Hawaii.

I am not sure I completely understand the rules here. But I'm giving it a go.

So far, so good!

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

Only two more days people! (Unless you are choosing a non-Thursday game)

[mpfunk]

Colorado.

[UtahsMrSports]

Colorado

[LA Ute]

We'll let you know if you're doing it all wrong.

That's a chronic deep need in my life that this site meets.

[Applejack]

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105


Interesting picks so far. UW and Arizona are big favorites, Wazzu is favored by a touchdown. Colorado is favored by a field goal and Cal is an 11 point dog. Good luck jr84105!

[SoCalPat]

Arizona

[SigmaUte]

Somehow you removed me from the list of names. I picked Colorado.

[Applejack]

Updated (apologies to Sigma)

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

[wally]

.... Everyone on this board is REQUIRED to participate, even if you are a lurker, a BYU fan, or a googlebot. Thus, expect frequent reminder bumps each week.....

Oh crap! I missed this sentence! Arizona for me.

[LA Ute]

Oh crap! I missed this sentence! Arizona for me.

Good thing you woke up and took part. We were thinking about organizing a disciplinary council.

[Applejack]

There will be a number of disfellowships happening shortly. Good thing Wally stands with us.

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

[wally]

Good thing you woke up and took part. We were thinking about organizing a disciplinary council.

omission vs commission, bro.

[Senioritis]

I'll take Arizona. They seem like nice guys, and their coach is the epitome of Frontier Fashion!

[Applejack]

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

OK kids, it's game day - time to get your picks in if you've been waiting to read the twitter leaves.

[UBlender]

Put me down for Colorado.

[SoCalPat]

This is really juvenile of me, and I'll probably pay the price for it with UNLV beating Arizona, but I am so LOL'ing the fact that nearly a quarter of the field is eliminated before the first week is even over with.

[Applejack]

This is really juvenile of me, and I'll probably pay the price for it with UNLV beating Arizona, but I am so LOL'ing the fact that nearly a quarter of the field is eliminated before the first week is even over with.

Not juvenile at all :highfive:

See ya, suckers!

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma, UBlender
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

By the way, for those who haven't entered, there is still time. You can't choose Wazzu (LOL), but everyone else is still on the table. And after last night, your odds of winning just went through the roof!

[sancho]

Not juvenile at all :highfive:

See ya, suckers!

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma, UBlender
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

Sweet. One step closer to a Saints practice jersey.

[Applejack]

OK, it's time to call out the big-time posters who haven't ponied up their free picks: OrangeUte, Seattle (Where Art Thou?), Utah, concerned, UtahDan (is he still around?), USS, Garth (?), Rocker, NorthWestUtefan, Solon, Uteopia, TwoUtes, HotLunch, ToolBlue (!).

Jump aboard the survivor train.

[UTEopia]

OK, it's time to call out the big-time posters who haven't ponied up their free picks: OrangeUte, Seattle (Where Art Thou?), Utah, concerned, UtahDan (is he still around?), USS, Garth (?), Rocker, NorthWestUtefan, Solon, Uteopia, TwoUtes, HotLunch, ToolBlue (!).

Jump aboard the survivor train.

Well that was quick, Thanks Wazzu.

[Damage U]

The way that went there won't be anyone surviving past week 5.

[sancho]

The way that went there won't be anyone surviving past week 5.

I don't know, Sully created a probability matrix that goes through the whole season...oh wait.

[Dawminator]

OK, it's time to call out the big-time posters who haven't ponied up their free picks: OrangeUte, Seattle (Where Art Thou?), Utah, concerned, UtahDan (is he still around?), USS, Garth (?), Rocker, NorthWestUtefan, Solon, Uteopia, TwoUtes, HotLunch, ToolBlue (!).

Jump aboard the survivor train.

Even though I am not big time, I will go with Colorado.

[Applejack]

Well that was quick, Thanks Wazzu.


The way that went there won't be anyone surviving past week 5.

Week 5? I'm hoping someone survives until Week 2.

[Applejack]

Even though I am not big time, I will go with Colorado.

You are big-time in my heart (but you need to post more to please the public). I've got you penned in for the Buffs. Good luck!

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma, UBlender, Dawminator
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105

[Applejack]

Today is the last day to choose Arizona or Da'Buffs. If you wait until tomorrow, you are stuck with UCLA, USC, UW, or (gulp) Cal.

[sancho]

Game time! A rams win here eliminates 10 more of you turkeys!

[SigmaUte]

I feel like whatever week I am forced to pick CAL is the week I lose.

[SigmaUte]

I feel like whatever week I am forced to pick CAL is the week I lose.

Haha just kidding. I really meant the week I pick colorado will be the day I lose.

[sancho]

...and then there were 12.

[SigmaUte]

...and then there were 12.

Motion to restart survivor pool :moron:

[hostile]

Game time! A rams win here eliminates 10 more of you turkeys!
I knew I'd be out when I picked CU.

[jrj84105]

Motion to restart survivor pool :moron:

Re-entry proposal:
If you picked WSU or CU to win, you may re-enter but have to select that team twice going forward. A severe handicap, but still a chance to get back in.

[OrangeUte]

I pick Washington

[UTEopia]

Re-entry proposal:
If you picked WSU or CU to win, you may re-enter but have to select that team twice going forward. A severe handicap, but still a chance to get back in.

How about you change it to a total record deal? You can still only pick a team to win once, but the final results will be on the basis of total record.

[Diehard Ute]

If done next year...there should be a date before all games to pick. Not a "wait and see how several teams do and pick from the rest" method ;)

[jrj84105]

You are big-time in my heart (but you need to post more to please the public). I've got you penned in for the Buffs. Good luck!

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma, UBlender, Dawminator
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA
Cal: jr84105



I feel like whatever week I am forced to pick CAL is the week I lose.

Not so fast.

[UBlender]

Put me down for Colorado.

I hate this game, I hate all of you and above all, I hate the Colorado University Buffalosers (<<<just thought this up--clever!).

[Applejack]

Re-entry proposal:
If you picked WSU or CU to win, you may re-enter but have to select that team twice going forward. A severe handicap, but still a chance to get back in.

Maybe if a nice guy like LAUte were running this thing. But unfortunately, I am. No mercy.


How about you change it to a total record deal? You can still only pick a team to win once, but the final results will be on the basis of total record.

Nope.


If done next year...there should be a date before all games to pick. Not a "wait and see how several teams do and pick from the rest" method ;)

I agree. I had to cajole a little bit. With how this thing is trending on twitter, next year will be huge. I don't think the waiters gained any advantage.


I hate this game, I hate all of you and above all, I hate the Colorado University Buffalosers (<<<just thought this up--clever!).

I never feel sorry for people who pick Wazzu or Colorado on opening night.

Here's where we stand:

Arizona: Applejack, MRD, Sancho, midnight_shift, SoCalPat, Wally, Senioritis
Wazzu: Sully, Scratch, ChristenUte, Uteopia, UtahSTREET, J'n'Cedar, Damage
Colorado: Hostile, DnF, Diehard, UUte, dfb32, Funk, MrUtahSports, Sigma, UBlender, Dawminator[
UW: Scorcho, Brian, LA, Orange
Cal: jr84105

I'm rooting hard for the Rainbow Warriors tonight!

[jrj84105]

Maybe if a nice guy like LAUte were running this thing. But unfortunately, I am. No mercy!
Nice has nothing to do with it. The proposal was the losers had to pick the same team two more times. That way we get to rub it in their faces for the rest of the season as they keep making the same bad picks. It's evil genius.
:jig:

[LA Ute]

By virtue of a single point scored by Washington, Scorcho, Brian, Orange and I remain alive. :rockon:

[OrangeUte]

By virtue of a single point scored by Washington, Scorcho, Brian, Orange and I remain alive. :rockon:

Yes! Victory is ours!

I dig this game.