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tooblue
08-18-2015, 05:26 PM
Sorority Video Generates Charges of Discrimination

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nytnow/sorority-video-generates-charges-of-discrimination.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=wide&state=standard&contentPlacement=2&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2015%2F08 %2F19%2Fnytnow%2Fsorority-video-generates-charges-of-discrimination.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nytnow/sorority-video-generates-charges-of-discrimination.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=wide&state=standard&contentPlacement=2&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2015%2F08 %2F19%2Fnytnow%2Fsorority-video-generates-charges-of-discrimination.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0)

mUUser
08-19-2015, 10:55 AM
The Greek system in the south, in general, is a different animal. A big deal. A really, really big deal. Like cotillion I guess.

Not everybody's cup of tea but I didn't see anything offensive here. Wonder if the AA guy in the video has had any blowback for his appearance.

U-Ute
08-19-2015, 07:17 PM
There is plenty of diversity.

I see both blondes and brunettes.

NorthwestUteFan
08-20-2015, 09:44 AM
There is plenty of diversity.

I see both blondes and brunettes.

That is at least as diverse as byu

tooblue
08-20-2015, 10:29 AM
That is at least as diverse as byu

And the University of Utah.

LA Ute
08-20-2015, 03:50 PM
And the University of Utah.

You need to spend a little time on campus again. I spent half the day there today watching new freshmen (including my daughter) move in to the dorms. BYU it ain't.

Two Utes
08-20-2015, 03:53 PM
You need to spend a little time on campus again. I spent half the day there today watching new freshmen (including my daughter) move in to the dorms. BYU it ain't.

it was a glorious time on the University of Utah campus as a youngster when spring really hit.

tooblue
08-20-2015, 04:24 PM
You need to spend a little time on campus again. I spent half the day there today watching new freshmen (including my daughter) move in to the dorms. BYU it ain't.

I've recently been on the U of U campus ... last fall to be precise. It's as vanilla as the rest of the state. You want to see diversity, visit Toronto and my campus, which is waaaaaay out in the suburbs. It will blow your mind.

LA Ute
08-20-2015, 05:07 PM
I've recently been on the U of U campus ... last fall to be precise. It's as vanilla as the rest of the state.

TB, I love you, man, but you are demonstrably wrong about this. The U's ethnic diversity is "on a par with the national average:"

http://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-utah/student-life/diversity/

BYU, on the other hand, "is ranked #1428 (http://www.collegefactual.com/rankings/diversity/ethnic/#1428) in ethnic diversity nationwide, with a student body composition that is below the national average....the chart below also explores ethnic diversity among the faculty at BYU."

http://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/brigham-young-university-provo/student-life/diversity/?_ga=1.259129994.168362578.1440111694#EthnicDivers ity

tooblue
08-20-2015, 08:40 PM
TB, I love you, man, but you are demonstrably wrong about this. The U's ethnic diversity is "on a par with the national average:"

http://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-utah/student-life/diversity/

BYU, on the other hand, "is ranked #1428 (http://www.collegefactual.com/rankings/diversity/ethnic/#1428) in ethnic diversity nationwide, with a student body composition that is below the national average....the chart below also explores ethnic diversity among the faculty at BYU."

http://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/brigham-young-university-provo/student-life/diversity/?_ga=1.259129994.168362578.1440111694#EthnicDivers ity

It's still 72% white :blink: Which is so very much different than where I live and work, it's unfathomable ... and it's on par with Alabama, so a comparison is apt. Not sure why you're getting worked up about this. The University of Utah is vanilla, any way you slice it. And I never argued BYU isn't equally or more so, so ...

tooblue
08-20-2015, 08:41 PM
Isn't your place an art school? I would guess most art schools are diverse in a very uniform kind of way. But, yeah, Toronto is a very diverse city.

I teach art and design but it's not exclusively an art school. Actually, art schools are predominantly (even overwhelmingly) vanilla in my experience.

LA Ute
08-20-2015, 11:17 PM
The University of Utah is vanilla, any way you slice it. And I never argued BYU isn't equally or more so, so ...

Sure it is. But you're running away from your claim. You said it's as vanilla as the rest of the state. It is not.

tooblue
08-21-2015, 06:35 AM
Sure it is. But you're running away from your claim. You said it's as vanilla as the rest of the state. It is not.

72% ... It is as vanilla as the rest of the state. It really is self evident. I didn't think I needed to restate the obvious. The University of Utah is not some bastion of multi-culturalism. Why are you arguing about 72%?

LA Ute
08-21-2015, 07:21 AM
72% ... It is as vanilla as the rest of the state. It really is self evident. I didn't think I needed to restate the obvious. The University of Utah is not some bastion of multi-culturalism. Why are you arguing about 72%?

LOL


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tooblue
08-21-2015, 08:04 AM
LOL


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Exactly.

tooblue
08-21-2015, 08:31 AM
Race is only one dimension of diversity. The true value of diversity is in exposure to and appreciation of different backgrounds, interests, experiences, cultures, etc. This type of diversity exists everywhere, but there are extra dimensions at utah compared to byu because of nontraditional, nonmormon, and low GPA students. That was one thing I really liked about my time at the U.

I didn't attend either school. But I did grow up in the shadow of the U of U. I agree race is only one dimension of diversity, but the diversity of which you speak is scant at the U and within it's immediate surrounding communities, as compared to elsewhere. But really, the original post was about a promotional video for a sorority at the University of Alabama. The same diversity exemplified in the video could just as easily be duplicated at the U of U. Besides, Utah is new Alabama isn't it!

Roll satin warriors roll!

U-Ute
08-25-2015, 09:39 AM
I didn't attend either school. But I did grow up in the shadow of the U of U. I agree race is only one dimension of diversity, but the diversity of which you speak is scant at the U and within it's immediate surrounding communities, as compared to elsewhere. But really, the original post was about a promotional video for a sorority at the University of Alabama. The same diversity exemplified in the video could just as easily be duplicated at the U of U. Besides, Utah is new Alabama isn't it!

Roll satin warriors roll!

How can the U be as diverse as the rest of the state and still be some bastion of hippy-lesbo-liberalism per standard Provo doctrine?

Rocker Ute
08-25-2015, 10:29 AM
How can the U be as diverse as the rest of the state and still be some bastion of hippy-lesbo-liberalism per standard Provo doctrine?


Because evil has overcome our choice sons and daughters.

Scratch
08-25-2015, 11:19 AM
The same diversity exemplified in the video could just as easily be duplicated at the U of U. Besides, Utah is new Alabama isn't it!


This may be the most meaningless statement I've ever read on this board. It could be duplicated at the U? Of course it could. I imagine you COULD find a few dozen white girls at Tuskegee or Howard and duplicate this video there as well.

tooblue
08-25-2015, 11:29 AM
This may be the most meaningless statement I've ever read on this board. It could be duplicated at the U? Of course it could. I imagine you COULD find a few dozen white girls at Tuskegee or Howard and duplicate this video there as well.

As meaningless as the statement about BYU.

And Sure, with effort—but not easily—you could do anything on any campus in the US. The point is how easy and effortlessly it would be on the U of U campus to duplicate this video. Not just visually, but matching it in tone and attitude as well. Beyond visually, could the same be said of BYU's campus? Maybe.

Rocker Ute
08-25-2015, 03:24 PM
So anyway, speaking of modesty meme's... I saw this and thought it was interesting.

http://diply.com/uberfacts/removes-dolls-make-up-tree-change-dolls/171169?utm_content=bufferda65b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Are we sexualizing children's toys?

tooblue
08-25-2015, 03:50 PM
So anyway, speaking of modesty meme's... I saw this and thought it was interesting.

http://diply.com/uberfacts/removes-dolls-make-up-tree-change-dolls/171169?utm_content=bufferda65b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Are we sexualizing children's toys?

It's an awesome video. We posted it on Facebook a while ago. I love the dolls.

tooblue
08-25-2015, 09:20 PM
Also related:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11819672/Mental-anguish-of-teenage-girls-revealed-in-survey.html


Young girls said mental health, cyber-bullying and jobs were the biggest worries in their lives