Utah vs. Arizona 2016

[chrisrenrut]

It seems that both teams are reeling a bit from injuries. Arizona played their 3rd string quarterback, Khalil Tate, who they were considering redshirting. The true freshman may start this week. Their tight end will play qb if the third string guy goes down.

At one point during the UCLA game, the tv showed RichRod with his head in his hands when Tate went down on the opposite sideline and was slow to get up. Runing Back Nick Wilson also went down in the game with an injury.


In the meantime, Rodriguez awoke Sunday morning with a lengthy injury report — “There’s about 28 guys on it, and 18 of them are starters,” Rodriguez said — and question marks all over the place for Saturday night’s game at Utah.

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/with-injuries-mounting-richrod-unsure-who-will-play-qb-for/article_cb1d4eeb-3704-55cc-b86a-b96cf44bd9b6.html

[chrisrenrut]

Game time weather looks to be clear, with a high near 70 in the afternoon. Perfect football weather.

[Applejack]

Arizona is dealing with its own injury bu (http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/with-injuries-mounting-richrod-unsure-who-will-play-qb-for/article_cb1d4eeb-3704-55cc-b86a-b96cf44bd9b6.html)g. We won't know who is going to be playing QB until gametime.

[SoCalPat]

Arizona is dealing with its own injury bu (http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/with-injuries-mounting-richrod-unsure-who-will-play-qb-for/article_cb1d4eeb-3704-55cc-b86a-b96cf44bd9b6.html)g. We won't know who is going to be playing QB until gametime.

On paper, this should be a blowout. But we've got injury issues of our own, and we never truly make teams pay for their weaknesses. Fresh in our memory is last week against Cal, but remember our first bowl-less season under Kyle? We needed to beat Arizona at home, a team whose defense was atrocious away from Tucson. It gave up 54, 49 and 66 points in Pac-12 road games, and 48 against Nevada in its bowl game. Meanwhile, Utah scored 24 in a 10-point loss.

[Diehard Ute]

On paper, this should be a blowout. But we've got injury issues of our own, and we never truly make teams pay for their weaknesses. Fresh in our memory is last week against Cal, but remember our first bowl-less season under Kyle? We needed to beat Arizona at home, a team whose defense was atrocious away from Tucson. It gave up 54, 49 and 66 points in Pac-12 road games, and 48 against Nevada in its bowl game. Meanwhile, Utah scored 24 in a 10-point loss.

The thought of playing a 4th string center who is a walk on that was given a scholarship is a bit scary.

The unsubstantiated rumors that Troy Williams isn't practicing and may not play are even more scary. (Whit acknowledged Troy is dinged up)

It's going to be interesting just to see who we have dressed Saturday night.


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[Applejack]

The thought of playing a 4th string center who is a walk on that was given a scholarship is a bit scary.

The unsubstantiated rumors that Troy Williams isn't practicing and may not play are even more scary. (Whit acknowledged Troy is dinged up)

It's going to be interesting just to see who we have dressed Saturday night.


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Is the 4th string walk on center the big Polish dude? We've been hearing about how good he is against the scout team for years!

[hostile]

I'm not sure. All I know is I'm 6th string.
Next man up!

[Diehard Ute]

Is the 4th string walk on center the big Polish dude? We've been hearing about how good he is against the scout team for years!

Yup. Nick Nowakowski. Although in OL terms he's not big. He's listed at 295 but is only 6'1"


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[LA Ute]

The 1994 Freedom Bowl team is being honored Saturday at halftime. Maybe that's good karma because it was Arizona we beat in that game. I was there and had no idea what a great turning point that win -- and that season -- were for the program. Video clip and info here:

https://www.facebook.com/uathletics/videos/10154554913900960/


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[Mormon Red Death]

The 1994 Freedom Bowl team is being honored Saturday at halftime. Maybe that's good karma because it was Arizona we beat in that game. I was there and had no idea what a great turning point that win -- and that season -- were for the program. Video clip and info here:

https://www.facebook.com/uathletics/videos/10154554913900960/


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A young Solon and MRD (high schoolers) were in person and for the game against USC the year before.

[Applejack]

I was there too. What a happy memory. I still do that thing that Dyson did with his arms when he caught the game winner. I don't know what it is.

I was there, three! I believe that was a frat symbol--a lot of players did that during McBride's run.

[SeattleUte]

I was there, three! I believe that was a frat symbol--a lot of players did that during McBride's run.

So was I. I wish we were that lucky last week!

[Diehard Ute]

Per Goon Lowell Lotulelei practiced and should play. That's some good news.


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[LA Ute]

Per Goon Lowell Lotulelei practiced and should play. That's some good news.


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:clap:


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[Rocker Ute]

I was at the freedom bowl as well. We bought tickets from scalpers that had us on the front row about 40 yard line... right in the middle of all the AZ fans. We tried not to be obnoxious but people were not pleased we were there (6 of us).

Remember the intentional safety?


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[Rocker Ute]

I'm of the opinion that we'll realize the full importance of Lowell Lotulelie when our defense stops getting gashed like it has. This is the year to get the AZ monkey off our back and send RichRod back to the tanning beds with Trump.


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[DrumNFeather]

Moss tweeted that he's out tonight.

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[Diehard Ute]

Moss tweeted that he's out tonight.

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Which means we only have one RB unless Troy suddenly isn't dinged up...Manalo may need to step up


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[Solon]

Which means we only have one RB unless Troy suddenly isn't dinged up...Manalo may need to step up


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Wait - is McCormick hurt too? I've got to confess, I am unable to keep up with the injury bug. it seemed to me that troy mccormick played only sparingly last week.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Today is an absolutely must-win. And it is shaping up to be a huge battle.

Still, I won't trade it for anything.

[Diehard Ute]

Wait - is McCormick hurt too? I've got to confess, I am unable to keep up with the injury bug. it seemed to me that troy mccormick played only sparingly last week.

Kyle said he was dinged up, but we haven't heard any more. He's certainly not 100% if he plays


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I think anyone attending the game should bring a pair of cleats just in case.

Just make sure they're not Under Armour since those are what's causing all our injuries. (According to Twitter.)


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[NorthwestUteFan]

Just make sure they're not Under Armour since those are what's causing all our injuries. (According to Twitter.)


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I think it is dangerous for players to believe this. Too many people believe they are getting hurt because of the cleats, but the truth doesn't seem to bear that out.

Dielman's foot got stepped on, for example. No cleats would have protected him in that situation .

[U-Ute]

Patrick warming up.

[U-Ute]

Moss tweeted that he's out tonight.

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With all the stuff Moss has tweeted, I'm surprised he still has a phone.

[U-Ute]

Any word on Lotulelei?

[U-Ute]

Finally scrolled back deep into my Twitter timeline to read he is playing.

[LA Ute]

Well, there we go. Spotting them 7.


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[mpfunk]

Ugh, please tell me this isn't going to be a long night.

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[Irving Washington]

Oh for God's sake. Can we say blown coverage?

[justaute]

Nice D...Utes.

[U-Ute]

Well we can win the time of possession if nothing else.

[LA Ute]

Oh for God's sake. Can we say blown coverage?

Someone was not where he was supposed to be.


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[mpfunk]

I'm so fucking sick of this offense.

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[U-Ute]

Digital down markers. That's new.

[justaute]

Yup. Inertia and obtuse.


I'm so fucking sick of this offense.

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[LA Ute]

Defense needs to settle down.


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[LA Ute]

Patrick's not playing tonight? Anyone know?


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[LA Ute]

Surprised by the early reliance on the pass. It's working, though.


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[LA Ute]

Let's give Williams some credit here. He is making completions that Travis never could have last year.


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[NorthwestUteFan]

Why is Huntley in?

[concerned]

Who is playing center

[LA Ute]

Who is playing center

A walk-on converted guard.


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[OrangeUte]

Huntley play was a stupid little surprise. We need to score. Had 1st and goal from the 1 and we put an ice cold qb in? Dumb call.

[LA Ute]

That bad snap was a throwback to the McBride era.


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[justaute]

Look at those crappy red-zone %.

[mpfunk]

Can we just rename it the red zone the 0 to 3 point zone?

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[LA Ute]

Look at those crappy red-zone %.

It's gotten to the point where I get nervous every time we are in the red zone. I wonder "How will we find a way to blow it this time?"


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[U-Ute]

Huntley play was a stupid little surprise. We need to score. Had 1st and goal from the 1 and we put an ice cold qb in? Dumb call.

Hard to blame Huntley for the slow slow dribbler snap.

[U-Ute]

We should just stop at the 20 and chuck the ball at the end zone from there

[OrangeUte]

Hard to blame Huntley for the slow slow dribbler snap.

Didn't blame Huntley. Said the call was stupid. Might have made no difference w a bad snap but he has no feel for the game yet and Williams does.

[U-Ute]

Patrick's not playing tonight? Anyone know?


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He dressed and did warm ups.

[OrangeUte]

Good field position here.

[LA Ute]

Maybe we can be done now with the false starts?


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[LA Ute]

Looked like PI to me.


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[mpfunk]

Terrible defense. 3 points in the first half. It is beyond ridiculous that we keep having this problem every year. I'm not asking for a great offense. I'd settle for even mediocre.

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[LA Ute]

Not looking like 9-point favorites right now.


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[U-Ute]

0 rushing yards after 1Q

[justaute]

Same coaches, same results. I'll give them a tiny bit of break given the number of injuries.


Terrible defense. 3 points in the first half. It is beyond ridiculous that we keep having this problem every year. I'm not asking for a great offense. I'd settle for even mediocre.

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[justaute]

Oh...what has Roderick accomplished at Utah (besides almost leaving twice)?

[LA Ute]

And a false start! Thats 4 tonight already!


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[LA Ute]

Any ideas as to why we've abandoned the run?


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[OrangeUte]

Thank heavens for Australian punters.

[Hot Lunch]

Different week, same pathetic offense. I can't wait to see some here come to his defense.

[U-Ute]

Any ideas as to why we've abandoned the run?


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Lack of running back depth?

[mpfunk]

The red zone is the 0 to 3 point zone. The rest of the field is the 3 and out zone. Anything less than 35 against this miserable defense is a failure.

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[LA Ute]

Different week, same pathetic offense. I can't wait to see some here come to his defense.

I was willing to give him a chance but he's losing me.


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[LA Ute]

There is something about our defensive scheme that causes us to struggle against mobile QBs. They always give us trouble.

I hope we punish him for scrambling.

[justaute]

Other than ourselves, we can't punish anyone right now.


There is something about our defensive scheme that causes us to struggle against mobile QBs. They always give us trouble.

I hope we punish him for scrambling.

[LA Ute]

Arizona's making us look awful.


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[justaute]

Good night, y'all. Not worth my time here in the Eastern timezone.

[SeattleUte]

Ugh!


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[LA Ute]

The false starts are embarrassing.


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[LA Ute]

Now almost a delay of game.


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[mpfunk]

I'm not sure that with this offense we can beat ASU or Oregon. Yeah, neither is a good team and Oregon is awful, but we will need to score over 20 points.

Washington is going to beat us by 4 TDs.

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[LA Ute]

If we can score before the half ....


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[LA Ute]

Oh for pete's sake.


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I can't get over how dumb this offense plays. Has someone told Troy Williams about what a play clock is?


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

If we can score before the half ....


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We just entered the red zone, so no.


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

We just entered the red zone, so no.


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Good news! Not in the red zone anymore!


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[LA Ute]

Is it the new Center who's causing all these blockhead false starts?


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[mpfunk]

Can we fire A Rod tommorrow?

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[LA Ute]

Kyle looks like he could kill someone.


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[LA Ute]

We should try to run the clock out until half time before anything worse happens.


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[mpfunk]

Also, Jim Harding. Can we fire him too?

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[OrangeUte]

Good grief this is just awful.

[LA Ute]

Looks like a horrible call by the refs.


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[LA Ute]

So we earned the safety.


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[OrangeUte]

Let's get 7 here for crying out loud

[OrangeUte]

Great return by butler Byrd!

[LA Ute]

Now we need to score right away before we get to the red zone. We don't want to be there!


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[Mormon Red Death]

do PAC 12 refs even know the rules?

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[OrangeUte]

Finally a positive yardage running play.

[LA Ute]

I'm starting to hate the AZ players.


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[LA Ute]

Lots of taunting.


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[LA Ute]

Let's break the red zone hex now.


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[LA Ute]

I'm trying to remember a worse first half performance. Can anyone think of one?

Kyle needs to get those guys in the locker room and have a shrink speak to them, or sprinkle some pixie dust on them, or something -- whatever gets them out of the mindset they seem to be in right now.


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[Devildog]

I'm trying to remember a worse first half performance. Can anyone think of one?

Kyle needs to get those guys in the locker room and have a shrink speak to them, or sprinkle some pixie dust on them, or something -- whatever gets them out of the mindset they seem to be in right now.


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A rod needs his ass chewed. I hope he can turn this around. But if he can't.... he needs to be on his way. God damn I hate this fawkin offense.

[U-Ute]

Amazingly enough, the Utes are able to emerge from the tunnel to start the second half without drawing a flag.

[LA Ute]

Amazingly enough, the Utes are able to emerge from the tunnel to start the second half without drawing a flag.

Maybe they decided to buckle down and begin the second half without false-starting out of the tunnel.


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[LA Ute]

Bright spot: kick returns. We are doing better tonight than in any prior game.


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[LA Ute]

Anybody have any insights into why our offensive line is getting pushed around so much tonight?


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[LA Ute]

Great run by Butler-Bird. Unfortunately, he did not make it all away to the end zone, and we are stuck trying to score in the red zone.


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[LA Ute]

Great run by Butler-Bird. Unfortunately, he did not make it all away to the end zone, and we are stuck trying to score in the red zone.


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Okay, never mind.


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[U-Ute]

CBB is electric

[Devildog]

Come on Utah!

[U-Ute]

Anybody have any insights into why our offensive line is getting pushed around so much tonight?


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Because we start running backwards before the ball is snapped.

[U-Ute]

Whatever Whittingham said at half seems to have been effective.

[LA Ute]

Are you serious?

I'm afraid so. We cannot seem to gain any yardage on the ground. I am sure the center has a lot to do with that. Just wondering exactly how it's happening. Or not happening.


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[Mormon Red Death]

I'm loving the cheerleaders uniforms

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[LA Ute]

It looks like a different Utah team came out in the second half.

Love the pressure we are getting on their QB.


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[LA Ute]

It looks like a different Utah team came out in the second half.

Love the pressure we are getting on their QB.


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I'm going to stop saying such things. I've got the jinx bug tonight.

But I have to say that when our defensive line gets that kind of pressure on the QB, the defensive backfield has got to stop Hail Marys from succeeding.


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[OrangeUte]

Score here will settle my heart rate down.

[LA Ute]

Clearly Arizona is stunting and shifting, attempting to force false starts. Maybe they saw something on film. Our OL guys have got to figure that out. Especially Bolles.


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[LA Ute]

Suddenly we have a running game. When Bolles isn't committing false starts, he is a road grader out there.


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[U-Ute]

For all the things Bolles has done wrong, he destroyed the end and sprung Shyne.

[Brian]

A tale of two halves.

[LA Ute]

How great was that hit by Hansen, by the way?

A perfect tackle.


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[LA Ute]

Maybe we can stop biting on that fake now?


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[OrangeUte]

Nice to hold them to 3 points there

[OrangeUte]

Great second half. I hope shyne is back quickly.

[LA Ute]

Maybe we're calling all the QB running plays because we are out of running backs?


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[SeattleUte]

What happened to Schyne?

[LA Ute]

Kyle wins his 100th game and beats Rich-Rod for the first time. Nice win, after all is said and done.


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[U-Ute]

:eek:

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[U-Ute]

What happened to Schyne?

Knee. He planted funny.

[U-Ute]

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[U-Ute]

Looked ugly.

I only had the Jumbotron view with no replays. Did they show it on TV?

[U-Ute]

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[U-Ute]

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[Rocker Ute]

We've got to get the slow start / red zone issue off our back. Injuries are the story of the season. Glad to see us come back and gut one out in the second half.

Chase Hansen tackle that lead to the INT was amazing. Even more it was a picture perfect tackle.

One more win to bowl eligibility, although we may not be able to field a complete team by that time.


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[U-Ute]

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[U-Ute]

Here's a recording of Whittingham's halftime speech.

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[chrisrenrut]

How great was that hit by Hansen, by the way?

The hit, along with the interception was the #2 play in ESPN's Top Ten plays tonight.

[U-Ute]

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[justaute]

Looks like my going to bed in Q2 worked. :)

Read about the injuries, ouch. Although bad for the team, really feel for the players, especially JJ and Shyne.

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[Rocker Ute]

Whit said AZ defense was calling out cadence first half and the refs said they couldn't hear it?

Officiating continued to be horrible.


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[NorthwestUteFan]

Armand Shyne looked like a torn ACL. Same for UA's top LB, Ipollito.

The way injuries kept piling up I was worried every time Troy Williams kept the ball. But he did look good on the read option.

Welcome back, CBB! He was a difference maker on Offense.

[LA Ute]

My dislike for Rich-Rod and many of his players increased last night.


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[LA Ute]

Pretty funny when he made the bonehead decision for a quick kick and then chewed out whoever it was that shanked the kick.

He's always yelling angrily at his players. It's almost comical.


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[Ma'ake]

He's always yelling angrily at his players. It's almost comical.

Mike Stoops permanently damaged U of A's administration on what football coaches are like.

[UTEopia]

My dislike for Rich-Rod and many of his players increased last night.


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Rich-Rod, the Belicek of the PAC 12.

[U-Ute]

This is awesome. I'm glad someone posted the vine of it so we can keep it for posterity.

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[U-Ute]

And this.

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[LA Ute]

Mike Stoops permanently damaged U of A's administration on what football coaches are like.

I honestly wonder how effective it is. Any parent knows that if you are yelling at your kids all the time, pretty soon what you have to say to them becomes just noise.


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[Ma'ake]

I honestly wonder how effective it is. Any parent knows that if you are yelling at your kids all the time, pretty soon what you have to say to them becomes just noise.


That style has a short shelf life. Todd Graham has done a lot of the high-intensity screaming, and seems to skirt the line of having players check out on him.

Whitt was pushing the buttons pretty hard last night, too, but he was *really* lighting up the refs. They really struggled last night. I'll bet a few of them are wondering this morning how much longer they'll keep going out on the stage.

Last night was kind of a perfect storm of a really bad start, embarrassing penalties, struggling officials, angry coaches, angry fans, in a big brew of adversity that the team finally overcame.

When they brought Huntley in early - when he fumbled near the goal line and we had to settle for a FG - that indicated to me any notion of keeping Troy Williams "safe" was ditched because defenses had him pegged as not being a run threat. When he was still running late in the 4th, I was starting to cringe.

[U-Ute]

Buckle up. Last night was a really strange game in a season measured in strange games. Who knows what can happen from from here.

[LA Ute]

Interesting article in the Arizona edition of SB Nation.

Kyle Whittingham calls out Arizona’s defense in postgame interview

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/2016/10/9/13216482/kyle-whittingham-calls-out-arizona-wildcats-defense-in-postgame-interview-false-start-penalties


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[Ma'ake]

This scene will be Michael Batlan's recurring nightmare, he may end up with PTSD.

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I can see the Batlan household, this Thanksgiving.

Grandson: "Hey grandpa, remember that game when you were on TV and the Utah players kept making mistakes, but their coach yelled at *you*? That was funny, huh?"

Batlan: "Jimmy, Thanksgiving is a day to give thanks for the good things we HAVE in our lives. I don't want to talk about that game. Let's talk about more positive things, like your sister's cat apparently really does have 9 lives... or at least 2 lives. And grandma is recovering nicely from the blender incident from last April, and there's no rule that says a nice looking, mature woman, like grandma, isn't still beautiful just because she only has 3 mangled fingers on her left hand."

[USS Utah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0AaF1HTjFE

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

One of the more entertaining vines from last night. In hindsight, of course. https://twitter.com/utahmanpodcast/status/785160485528186880


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[NorthwestUteFan]

Awesome. I love the passion.

I think every head coach in CFB is a huge asshole and difficult to work for. Lone exception is probably Bill Snyder. Everybody loves that guy.

[LA Ute]

For your viewing enjoyment -- the Chase Hansen bone-rattling hit, along with Marcus's heads-up pick:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgyyKHDihNw

[Solon]

For your viewing enjoyment -- the Chase Hansen bone-rattling hit, along with Marcus's heads-up pick:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgyyKHDihNw

I'm so glad that the officials got that right.
The AZ receiver pops up pretty quickly - which is a tribute to him, but also a reminder that big hits don't necessarily need to be overly dangerous ones. A targeting-style helmet hit could've really done some damage to both players.

[concerned]

Too bad Chase Hansen isn't playing qb. What a waste.

[LA Ute]

I'm so glad that the officials got that right.
The AZ receiver pops up pretty quickly - which is a tribute to him, but also a reminder that big hits don't necessarily need to be overly dangerous ones. A targeting-style helmet hit could've really done some damage to both players.

Chase said post-game that he made the tackle just the way Scalley has taught the Ute players to tackle - using the shoulder. That made me proud.

[Utebiquitous]

No question Sancho. That touchdown pass he threw was a perfect throw. I thought our coverage was pretty good on the play. And we all witnessed his running abilities - speed and power. I will say that I'm grateful that it seems we have quarterbacks that will give them fits as well. Williams and Huntley are doing, and going to do, good things for the Utes.

I also thought the tweak Scalley made to the defense worked better this year against the run. He essentially brought the strong safety up to linebacker and we went with a lot of three/three and four/three looks (to my eyes). I thought after the first couple of drives we pretty much controlled their running game. They passed much better against us than I thought they would. Always something to work on.

[Utah]

No question Sancho. That touchdown pass he threw was a perfect throw. I thought our coverage was pretty good on the play. And we all witnessed his running abilities - speed and power. I will say that I'm grateful that it seems we have quarterbacks that will give them fits as well. Williams and Huntley are doing, and going to do, good things for the Utes.

I also thought the tweak Scalley made to the defense worked better this year against the run. He essentially brought the strong safety up to linebacker and we went with a lot of three/three and four/three looks (to my eyes). I thought after the first couple of drives we pretty much controlled their running game. They passed much better against us than I thought they would. Always something to work on.

Scalley's game plan vs Arizona was amazing. He completely changed the defense to a 3-4/3-3-5 hybrid. We ran three down linemen on most 1st and 2nd downs. It gave us the speed to spread the field with Arizona.

Also, Chase Hansen is incredible. He makes a lot of that possible.