2017 NCAA Football Season

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I figured that we are far enough into 2017 to stop posting into the 2016 thread.

This is a pretty interesting rule proposal. It would allow freshman to play in up to four games without burning their redshirt. I'm sure DHC fully endorses such a proposal.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/5/8/15583306/rule-proposal-true-freshman-four-games-bowls-redshirt


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Early signing period in December was approved this afternoon. I think this helps a school like Utah who have problems when the bigger schools start pushing a recruit late in the process.

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[Applejack]

Early signing period in December was approved this afternoon. I think this helps a school like Utah who have problems when the bigger schools start pushing a recruit late in the process.

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I'm not so sure. Doesn't just this move forward the poaching date?

[UBlender]

I'm not so sure. Doesn't just this move forward the poaching date?

Yes, the USCs of the world will know the deadlines and will adjust their poaching accordingly.

[UTEopia]

I think what it does is make schools put their real offers on the table. On Dec. 19, USC sends scholarship papers to 5*. USC's backup plan to 5* is 4*, but they don't send him scholarship papers because they cannot take both 5* and 4*. Utah sends scholarship papers to 4*. It is possible that 4* will sign with Utah because he is uncertain that USC will have a place for him and he now knows that he is a top priority at Utah and a backup plan at USC. Of course, this same scenario can play out between Utah and USU.

[SoCalPat]

I think what it does is make schools put their real offers on the table. On Dec. 19, USC sends scholarship papers to 5*. USC's backup plan to 5* is 4*, but they don't send him scholarship papers because they cannot take both 5* and 4*. Utah sends scholarship papers to 4*. It is possible that 4* will sign with Utah because he is uncertain that USC will have a place for him and he now knows that he is a top priority at Utah and a backup plan at USC. Of course, this same scenario can play out between Utah and USU.

But the pool of 5/4 is much smaller than the pool of 4/3. Sure, Utah can get dinged by the rule by the Utah States of the world, but we'll tread water. If we can pull guys out of the 5/4 star pool, that will help us take a step forward. I'm very much out of tune with recruiting news, because it's largely an oxymoron. But I think we'll benefit from this over time.

[UTEopia]

I think the other place it helps is if a kid you are after signs with someone else at the early signing date, you have more time to find someone else.

[Utah]

I don't think this signing period makes that much of a difference. What probably happens is that the blue bloods fill their classes in December, then the other P5 close up their classes between than and Feb. Expect a ton of whining right after the first signing day.

If you really want to help the smaller P5's and G5's, then your early signing day should be in August.

[UTEopia]

i heard Bill Riley say that the earlier over/under for the Utes out of Vegas is 6.5. That is a tough number to accept, but when you look at it, it is a tough decision. 6 or fewer wins or 7 or more wins. I am one who hates to get my expectations ahead of performance and with so many unknowns on the offensive side of the ball and some big losses to replace on the defensive side, I could easily see the Utes win 6 or fewer games. I'm going to say they win 7. We will win the two games we are supposed to win, lose the 3 we are decided underdogs in and take 5 of 7 of the others.

North Dakota - Win (100%)
@ BYU - Win (60%)
SJSU - Win (100%)
@ Ariz. Win (60%)
BYE
Stanford - Loss. (30% chance at win)
@ USC - Loss (10% chance of win)
ASU - Win (70%)
@ Oregon - Loss (45% chance of win, but we don't)
UCLA - Win (55%)
WSU - Win (55%)
@UW - Loss (10% chance of win)
CU - Win. (55%)

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

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[chrisrenrut]

i heard Bill Riley say that the earlier over/under for the Utes out of Vegas is 6.5. That is a tough number to accept, but when you look at it, it is a tough decision. 6 or fewer wins or 7 or more wins. I am one who hates to get my expectations ahead of performance and with so many unknowns on the offensive side of the ball and some big losses to replace on the defensive side, I could easily see the Utes win 6 or fewer games. I'm going to say they win 7. We will win the two games we are supposed to win, lose the 3 we are decided underdogs in and take 5 of 7 of the others.

North Dakota - Win (100%)
@ BYU - Win (60%)
SJSU - Win (100%)
@ Ariz. Win (60%)
BYE
Stanford - Loss. (30% chance at win)
@ USC - Loss (10% chance of win)
ASU - Win (70%)
@ Oregon - Loss (45% chance of win, but we don't)
UCLA - Win (55%)
WSU - Win (55%)
@UW - Loss (10% chance of win)
CU - Win. (55%)

Looks like you have us down for 8 wins, unless you are not counting North Dakota. 3 wins in November would be a nice change, after a pretty bad October.

[Utah]

I'd say that 8 wins is a GREAT season. We face four NFL QB's this fall: Darnold, Rosen, Browning, Falk. We also face Colorado, Oregon and Stanford on top of that.

It's no stretch to say we go 3-0 OOC.

Then we have Arizona, Arizona State. If we go 2-0 vs those two, that puts us at 5-0.

If we can go 1-3 vs the NFL QB's, we are now at 6-3. Can we go 2-1 vs Stanford, Washington State and Colorado? I'm not sure we can. What about 2-2 vs the QB's? Again, I'm not sure we can.

I'd say that 7 wins should be the expectation, 8 wins is a great season, 9 wins? Wowza.

[SoCalPat]

i heard Bill Riley say that the earlier over/under for the Utes out of Vegas is 6.5. That is a tough number to accept, but when you look at it, it is a tough decision. 6 or fewer wins or 7 or more wins. I am one who hates to get my expectations ahead of performance and with so many unknowns on the offensive side of the ball and some big losses to replace on the defensive side, I could easily see the Utes win 6 or fewer games. I'm going to say they win 7. We will win the two games we are supposed to win, lose the 3 we are decided underdogs in and take 5 of 7 of the others.

North Dakota - Win (100%)
@ BYU - Win (60%)
SJSU - Win (100%)
@ Ariz. Win (60%)
BYE
Stanford - Loss. (30% chance at win)
@ USC - Loss (10% chance of win)
ASU - Win (70%)
@ Oregon - Loss (45% chance of win, but we don't)
UCLA - Win (55%)
WSU - Win (55%)
@UW - Loss (10% chance of win)
CU - Win. (55%)

We've got the right end of the 5-4 split in league games, we get Stanford at home after a bye and we never play back-to-back road games. If Taylor is the QB Whisperer for our senior QB, we'll win 'em all save for USC and UW.

Also, take note that the payoff on that season win total is not an even money bet. Per the odds listed, even Vegas thinks we're more likely to go over 6.5 wins than under 6.5 wins.

[Mormon Red Death]

Over/ under is 6.5

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[sancho]

If Taylor is the QB Whisperer for our senior QB, we'll win 'em all save for USC and UW.


Our fans do this with every new OC, and with every new OC we re-learn that personnel matters as much as coaching/system. Instead of QB whisperer, we need an alchemist.

The good news is that our recruiting has improved. Taylor may actually have some of the offensive pieces that his predecessors lacked.

I'm still in the "bowl eligible is a good season" mode, even though other fans say my expectations are too low.

[Slim]

Our fans do this with every new OC, and with every new OC we re-learn that personnel matters as much as coaching/system. Instead of QB whisperer, we need an alchemist.

While I agree, Taylor is a QB guy where as our previous OC's back to Brian Johnson were not QB guys.

[LA Ute]

Over/ under is 6.5

If I were a betting man I'd take that. Bill Riley said the same thing.

[SeattleUte]

Instead of QB whisperer, we need an alchemist.



What we really need is our fans to get real.

[Utah]

If I were a betting man I'd take that. Bill Riley said the same thing.

I agree. I'd be shocked if we didn't win 7 games.

[sancho]

Mandel released his new college football prestige rankings:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/college-football-program-pecking-order-3-0-dividing-all-66-bcs-teams-into-four-tier-hierarchy-052517

He has Utah in the "knights" category, which is basically a catch-all for programs that are not football powers but are relevant. It's a mish-mash with programs that won before the modern era (CU, UW, BYU), programs that have been in a national title hunt in the past decade (Utah, TCU, Baylor, Louisville), programs that are consistently good but never great (GT, Pitt, KState), and programs that have stunk for a long time but still have a smidge more cachet than the true nobodies (UVa, NCState, Syracuse).

[UTEopia]

Athlon released its preseason PAC 12 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th teams. Utah with 1 offensive player (Uhatafe -OL) on third team, 5 defensive players (Hansen and Lowell 1st, Fitts 2nd, Mokofisi 3rd, Luafatasuaga 4th) and 1 specialist (Wishnowski 1st). No other team with 1 or fewer offensive players. Washington with 6, USC and Stanford both with 5 defensive players.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/pac-12-football-2017-all-conference-team.

So, I guess my question is whether there is anyone on the offensive side of the ball with the ability to move into the top 3rd of the league at their position. Absent an injury to one of the 4 NFL bound QB's, I don't think it happens at that QB. RB is a possibility, especially since they list 8 guys. My feeling RB will be a collaborative effort throughout the season due to injuries, ineffectiveness and turnovers. Shyne will be limited early due to his ACL. Moss has the ability but was inconsistent, has injury problems (including spring) and turnover problems. I see the other guys as change-up guys and not every down backs. WR - Singleton could be that guy. TE - Handley if he can stay healthy. Of course WR/TE production assumes that we stick with the plan to throw the ball 35 or so times a game after September. OL - Bolles was an anomaly because he came in with a lot of hype and notoriety. Otherwise I think OL grow into all conference players over the course of years.

Let's hope that the sum of the offensive parts is greater than the individual talent.

[UTEopia]

Mandel released his new college football prestige rankings:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/college-football-program-pecking-order-3-0-dividing-all-66-bcs-teams-into-four-tier-hierarchy-052517

He has Utah in the "knights" category, which is basically a catch-all for programs that are not football powers but are relevant. It's a mish-mash with programs that won before the modern era (CU, UW, BYU), programs that have been in a national title hunt in the past decade (Utah, TCU, Baylor, Louisville), programs that are consistently good but never great (GT, Pitt, KState), and programs that have stunk for a long time but still have a smidge more cachet than the true nobodies (UVa, NCState, Syracuse).

Is Penn State still a king?

[sancho]

WR - Singleton could be that guy.

I don't think Singleton will be a top WR in this conference. The competition is just too stiff. Top WRs in the Pac-12 are future early draft picks.

[UTEopia]

I don't think Singleton will be a top WR in this conference. The competition is just too stiff. Top WRs in the Pac-12 are future early draft picks.

I don't think we have any future NFL WR's on the roster. The only way any WR/TE reaches that level is by sheer volume due to a change in the offense. I don't think the guys listed from WSU are NFL guys. They benefit from the number of balls thrown to them over the course of the season.

[UTEopia]

The guys from the 2017 recruiting class are starting to trickle into the program for summer conditioning. I saw posts indicating that both JUCO's Marquise Blair (S) and Jordan Agasiva (OL) graduated from JC. There is also a 6'1" 180 lb. Texas Tech transfer WR named Bronson Boyd, who was dismissed from Tech shortly after enrolling in January 2016. I cannot find anything official on his dismissal, but this is what the rumor mill stated: According to Red Raider Sports, mid-term signee wide receiver Bronson Boyd has been dismissed from the team as of Saturday morning.
The official stance from LAJ’s Don Williams (http://redraiders.com/sports/2017-01-28/texas-tech-freshman-receiver-kicked-team) and Texas Tech spokesperson Robert Giovannetti is that they don’t have any information at this time, but according to this Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/5qqk3i/ee_wr_bronson_boyd_no_longer_at_texas_tech/), Bronson screwed up royally:
He and Farrar (another early enrollee) were out last night and they got into an argument that turned violent, and Boyd drew a pocket knife and Farrar ended up cut between his lip and his chin. Coaches and police showed quickly to tend to Farrar, who bled a lot but seems to be ok- he was back in the football facility today.
Boyd was kicked out off the team/out of school first thing this morning. For those not keeping track, this was literally Boyd and Farrar’s second weekend at Tech. -____-
Oh and some recruits were with them, so it basically killed our chances at a 3 star CB and a 3 star DE supposedly.
I don’t know any reason not to trust this information from the Reddit thread, but just like anything else, take the information with a grain of salt.

He was a 4 star recruit and the 3rd highest rated recruit in the 2016 Tech recruiting class. He had an offer from the Utes out of HS. He will need to sit this year.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Is Penn State still a king?
Any team that can score on seven straight drives against a very good USC team in a big bowl game has to be considered at least an At-Large king.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Bob Stoops to announce his retirement. From Oklahoma. In June.

[sancho]

Bob Stoops to announce his retirement.

Wow. Didn't see that coming.

[Scorcho]

Bob Stoops to announce his retirement. From Oklahoma. In June.

just more fall out from not expanding and nabbing the best college football in the world

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAH85QuUQAAkXVX.jpg

[DrumNFeather]

The Chip Kelly sweepstakes is going to be great theater to watch next off-season.

[concerned]

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[UTEopia]

Bob Stoops to announce his retirement. From Oklahoma. In June.

What an ass. He waits just long enough that the incoming recruiting class is probably enrolled in classes and working out so that they cannot transfer without penalty.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

What an ass. He waits just long enough that the incoming recruiting class is probably enrolled in classes and working out so that they cannot transfer without penalty.

Which makes me think something weird triggered it. Illness or something bad coming down the program pipes.


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[concerned]

Which makes me think something weird triggered it. Illness or something bad coming down the program pipes.


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my thought too: sanctions

[U-Ute]

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[Scorcho]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-130-college-football-teams-2017

Athlon has Utah at #38

[U-Ute]

An interesting in-depth look at Troy Taylor and Utah's offensive potential.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/6/26/15796978/utah-football-new-offense-2017-troy-taylor

[Utah]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-130-college-football-teams-2017

Athlon has Utah at #38

That's where I'd have them.

I don't think we are any worse than last year, but the schedule is BRUTAL and we probably only get 7 wins.

[UTEopia]

The 2017 Media Guide is out and here are a couple of my observations.

We are a pretty young team.The Utes have 17 scholarship seniors, this does not include Cooper Bateman or Cody Ippolito. I don't know if they will be awarded scholarships or not. Several will not be rotation players: Christian Drews ( walk-on who was recently awarded a scholarship and will play mostly special teams), Jameson Field, Kyle Fulks ( I hope he can provide some help returning kicks and at WR, but I am skeptical that he will do much at WR), Marcus Sanders-Williams (back at RB), Kenric Young (See Fulks).

There are only 6 scholarship returned missionaries and signed two guys who will leave on missions before enrolling. To the best of my recollection, Utah currently has 2 guys on missions, Covey and TJ Kautai and it is possible that Kautai has returned and gone somewhere else. These numbers seems low from years past. Is it a trend? Are we recruiting fewer LDS kids who plan on taking missions? A guy I know commented on how many transfer missionaries BYU is getting. While I know that Utah wanted and was interested in most of them, none of them are guys that we cannot replace with equal or better talent in the regular course of recruiting. BYU, on the other hand, needs those guys, because they cannot replace them in the normal course of recruiting.

Our pass defense was 6th in the PAC 12 a year ago and our total defense was 6th. Our pass defense should be better.

We were 4th is scoring defense, but I wonder if that was in part due to the offense not turning the ball over and putting the defense in a vulnerable position.

We were 50% scoring touchdowns once we reached the redzone (27/54). The opposition was 62% (23/37). We reached the redzone 17 times more than the opposition, but only scored 4 more touchdowns. We scored 14 offensive touchdowns from outside the redzone. The opposition scored 13 touchdowns from outside the redzone. We gave up a lot of big play touchdowns.

We scored 73 points in the 1st quarter (opponents 95), 111 in 2nd (opp.61), 92 in 3rd (opp. 62) and 112 in 4th (opp. 93). Interesting that 1st and 3rd were our lowest performing - why so flat coming out of the gate and out of half? Does the oppositions offensive output in 1st due in part to our lack of offense? Does the oppositions output in the 4th due to more conservative defense?

We fumbled 32 times and lost only 17. We only threw 8 interceptions. The opposition threw 18 interceptions and lost 13 of 22 fumbles. We lost the turnover battle against BYU (6/4) and CU (4/2). We were even against Oregon St. and ASU. Can we win the turnover battle in 2017?

We need to score more touchdowns when we reach the redzone. We need to continue to win the turnover battle. We need to be better at pass defense. If we do these things, we can have a successful season. To me, that means 8+ wins.

However, this season will be determined by the development of the OL and on finding a reliable field goal kicker. I am concerned that Barton is our best option at LT, because I think he lacks the necessary athleticism to play against elite defensive ends. I think the same may be true of Uhatafe at RT. I believe we have the same level of talent on the defense as in years past. I expect Troy Williams to be significantly better this year then last and if he is beaten out by Huntley or Bateman, then QB play will be better. I am a little concerned about RB because Shyne is coming off a significant injury (I watched the Arizona game on PAC 12 today and there really was no reason he needed to be in the game at the time the injury occurred although both Moss and McCormick were out with injuries), Moss seems to be injury prone and Henry-Cole, while excellent in Spring, is unproven. Behind them are a Marcus Sanders-Williams and a true freshman. I think we will be better at WR and hopefully Handley and Siale can stay healthy. Siale is the total package at TE and can really create problems for a defense.

I think we get to 6 wins and I believe that 8 is most likely. We will need to have good fortune on the injuries and the quirky bounce of the ball to get more than 8.

[Scratch]

I believe the following are also all missionaries:

Vimahi
Suguturaga
T. Pututau
F. Pututau
K. Bills
C. Fotheringham
S. Lauaki
J. Maea
RJ Hubert

[UTEopia]

I believe the following are also all missionaries:

Vimahi
Suguturaga
T. Pututau
F. Pututau
K. Bills
C. Fotheringham
S. Lauaki
J. Maea
RJ Hubert

Wow. I totally missed on that. The burning question is how many will enroll at BYU.

[Scratch]

Wow. I totally missed on that. The burning question is how many will enroll at BYU.

The first three already rejected Kalani once. Don't know why they wouldn't reject him again.

[UTEopia]

I believe the following are also all missionaries:

Vimahi
Suguturaga
T. Pututau
F. Pututau
K. Bills
C. Fotheringham
S. Lauaki
J. Maea
RJ Hubert

All of the guys listed rejected Kalani once, but he really only had a short time to try to recruit the 2016 signees. Fotheringham is interesting because he is a TE and there is a question of how much Utah will use a TE moving forward with the Troy Taylor offense. Vimahi is listed on the roster this year, so maybe he plans to play a year first. All of the guys you identified signed LOI's with the Utes with the exception of Hubert. It will be interesting to see if the Utes ask any of the 2016 guys to sign LOI's in December.

[Utah]

I will say that Fulks looked much better in spring ball. He caught a lot more balls and dropped very few.

[UTEopia]

One additional observation.

The Media Guide lists only 76 scholarship athletes. There are guys like Bateman, Ippolito and Liljenquist who might be receiving scholarships, but that still leaves us well below the 85 allotted scholarships. We already have 21 guys listed as starting their eligibility, so we can only add 4 more initials for 2017.

I know the NCAA passed a rule prohibiting push forwards, but do not know if that goes into effect this year. We have had a lot of guys leave the program since the end o the 2016 season:

D McClellon WR (2016) Transfer



C Manning QB (2016) Transfer



D Young RB (2016) Medical



H Lutui OL (2016) Medical



S Tu’ikolovaka (2016) USC



C Smith LB (2016)



M Seabrook CB (2016)



A Lee S (2016) BYU



B Cox QB (2016)



K Huey DE (2016)



Marcel Manalo RB (2016)



T Williams CB (2016)



T Cisrow S (2017)



J Fogal S (2017) CSU



A Godfrey S (2017)



V Vainuku (2017) Medical

[Ma'ake]

The 2017 Media Guide is out and here are a couple of my observations...

Great breakdown.

It seemed like our D struggled a bit more last year than normal. Rookie DC? PAC-12 OCs getting a good handle on Utah's variant of the 4-3? Just crazy good PAC-12 QBs dropping dimes? Maybe some combinations, maybe other factors? I don't know, but I think Scalley has us playing better D, this year.

OL is a big question, because of the four NFL draftees, but also because the scheme changes quite a bit under Taylor. Given the time limitations in college ball, is Harding going with a full overhaul, or giving the returning OL a half-step up by modifying the existing system? The OL inexperience *might* be mitigated a bit by the quick passing game. Instead of prying holes against a D that has a strong idea that we'll be running, these guys will keeping defenders off the QB for a shorter time, and running fewer traps and pulling plays... or so it would seem.

We have enough incoming - or holdover non-starters - among the WRs that I'm not worried about them. We have enough talent at RB to find some contributors. Harding has the toughest job this year, which is what happens when you have four of your guys drafted.

It would be great to have another year of Phillips, but that's not the case. Kicker is going to be a big factor, especially with a new offense. If we're within striking distance, we need to get points.

If Taylor and Williams/Huntley/Bateman get this offense producing at a higher level, we can get to 9 wins, maybe more. Otherwise, with all the changes, 7 wins feels about right, to me.

[Utah]

I agree about the 7 wins. Did our D struggle? I think a lot blame was out unfairly on D because our offense didn't perform in the red zone, leaving games closer than they ever should have been.

Kicker...I think we have 4 or 5 with the team right now. Odds have to be in our favor, right?

I know there are two transfers that are almost Utes. That would be two more scholarships taken.

Shah loves his CB's right now. Blackmon and Hughes, he glows about.

Here are my comparisons so far:

QB: better this year. Troy is healthy and we have a lot of depth.
RB: worse. The good news is we won't use them as much this year. Ha ha.
WR: better. Simpkins, Singleton and Wilson are all better. Hampton is very good. Fulks is better. Dana has a lot of talent. There isn't anyone as good as Patrick, but receivers 2-7 are miles better than last year.
TE: Better. Fakailoatonga is a stud. Handley is better.
OL: worse. But I do think the change in offense lessens this blow.

DL: better. Lotulelei was hurt a lot of last year. Moko is a beast. Fitts has potential to be our best DE ever (potential to be). Anae is amazing for a soph. Fotu is a monster. The kid from Snow is very, very good. Tupai is very good. Hart finally looks like he is going to take playing time. Repp, Hamilton.... I could go on and on. Our DL is freaking stacked. We could have 8-10 NFL players on this DL (not all leaving next year).

LB: Better. Luafatasaga has potential to be All PAC-12. Tauteoli is better. Thompson is better. Hansen and Blair will play some LBer.

CB: I'd say worse, Shah would say push.

S: everyone thinks push. Williams was great, no denying that. But Hansen is almost as good, if not just as good (but in different ways). Ballard is really, really good. Blair has potential. Afia has looked really good. We are much deeper this year. Our backup S, Fogal, left because we fell off the depth chart.

K: worse. Like I said, we have 4 or 5, trying to find one.

P: Better.

I think we may be better this year than last. It's too bad our schedule is so much tougher.

Last year's schedule might be the easiest we ever get, with USC early and after Stanford and Alabama.

We miss OSU and Cal.

Although we might be better as a team, our schedule is INSANE.

I agree with Ma'ake. 7 wins is a very good season. 8 is a great season. 9+...wow. Holy shoot. Taylor is a God and we need to pay him real coordinator money ($1,000,000 per).

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

An exciting start of the season for Ol' Miss fans.

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[U-Ute]

Today marks 32 days until kickoff! Let's remember when Georgia Tech scored 32 touchdowns against Cumberland! (https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/6pganf/today_marks_32_days_until_kickoff_lets_remember/?st=j5jsibyc&sh=f125bae0)

Top comment:



Rushing Yards 978
Passing Attempts 0

Well, their tactics haven't changed all that much in the last century

[U-Ute]

And here's a very lifelike re-enactment of the game.

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[U-Ute]

Initial Reddit CFB poll.

Utes come in at 23.

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[U-Ute]

I just found out that those CFB Balls are drawn by someone in Utah. I'm not sure he is a Ute fan but he is nice to us. So he deserves some love.


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I just found out that those CFB Balls are drawn by someone in Utah. I'm not sure he is a Ute fan but he is nice to us. So he deserves some love.


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He is a Ute fan. He's @stujohnsen on Twitter.


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[chrisrenrut]

Did I miss Sancho's weekend viewing guide for the first week of college football?

No great games scheduled tomorrow, but there are 4 future opponents playing tomorrow (times are MDT).

Oregon St vs. Colorado St- 12:30

BYU vs. Portland St- 1:00

South Florida vs. San Jose St- 5:30

Stanford vs. Rice- 8:00

[U-Ute]

TheThrill sent me this link which is cool: http://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm

The TV schedule for the whole year for all teams.

[Utah]

That CSU vs OSU game should be fun. CSU fancies themselves a "BCS" buster.

Andersen sees himself going bowling. Should be a fun game.

[DrumNFeather]

That CSU vs OSU game should be fun. CSU fancies themselves a "BCS" buster.

Andersen sees himself going bowling. Should be a fun game.
Jordan Fogel should start at Safety for CSU. I hope he does well.

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[sancho]

That CSU vs OSU game should be fun. CSU fancies themselves a "BCS" buster.

Andersen sees himself going bowling. Should be a fun game.

First game in CSU's new stadium. It's sold out. I hope the Rams win.

[sancho]

Did I miss Sancho's weekend viewing guide for the first week of college football?


I didn't think anyone was reading those?

[Applejack]

Jordan Fogel should start at Safety for CSU. I hope he does well.

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Although it's too bad get left, I didn't think he was that great (killed is against uw). But I do hope he ups his game against the buffs.

[sancho]

Football! I love you, football.


Thursday:

Before the Utes kick off tomorrow, the die hard college football fanatic can watch PJ Fleck's debut at Minnesota (5:00).

During the Utah game, keep an eye on the OSU/Indiana score. Maybe things will get interesting.

Friday:

CSU vs CU is the main event. You can grab a first look at UW (@ Rutgers) during commercials.

Saturday morning:

Maryland @ Texas. Herman era begins in Austin.
Cal @ UNC. Wilcox era begins for bears.

Saturday afternoon:

Michigan @ Florida. One of the two big, big match-ups in week 1.
NCState @ South Carolina. The only other P5/P5 game of the afternoon.

Saturday evening:

FSU @ Bama. Even though you want them both to lose, this is a must watch. This is what they really mean when they say we are in the golden age of television.
Louisville @ Purdue is the only other P5 on P5 action in this time slot. This is not what they mean when they say we are in the golden age of television.

Saturday late:

Get some rest or watch a Pac-12 team beat up on an FCS team.

Sunday evening:

WVU vs VaTech. Another ranked/ranked game.
A&M @ UCLA at the same time! Thank you, football. for coming back!

Labor Day evening:

Tennessee @ GT

[chrisrenrut]

Football! I love you, football.


Thursday:

Before the Utes kick off tomorrow, the die hard college football fanatic can watch PJ Fleck's debut at Minnesota (5:00).

During the Utah game, keep an eye on the OSU/Indiana score. Maybe things will get interesting.

Friday:

CSU vs CU is the main event. You can grab a first look at UW (@ Rutgers) during commercials.

Saturday morning:

Maryland @ Texas. Herman era begins in Austin.
Cal @ UNC. Wilcox era begins for bears.

Saturday afternoon:

Michigan @ Florida. One of the two big, big match-ups in week 1.
NCState @ South Carolina. The only other P5/P5 game of the afternoon.

Saturday evening:

FSU @ Bama. Even though you want them both to lose, this is a must watch. This is what they really mean when they say we are in the golden age of television.
Louisville @ Purdue is the only other P5 on P5 action in this time slot. This is not what they mean when they say we are in the golden age of television.

Saturday late:

Get some rest or watch a Pac-12 team beat up on an FCS team.

Sunday evening:

WVU vs VaTech. Another ranked/ranked game.
A&M @ UCLA at the same time! Thank you, football. for coming back!

Labor Day evening:

Tennessee @ GT

For the record, I read this (and appreciated it).

[Utah]

Yes. Love this.

What a great opening weekend.

[sancho]

During the Utah game, keep an eye on the OSU/Indiana score. Maybe things will get interesting.


Things are interesting.

[Diehard Ute]

ASU wins by 6 and gives up 550 yards to New Mexico State


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[sancho]

Bama always looks like they're one order of magnitude bigger, faster, and stronger than their opponent.

[sancho]

Am I missing a game? Only one P5 has lost to a non-P5 so far (CSU beating OSU). That is well below the average for week 1. Could be an anomaly, but it could be an indication of separation.

[justaute]

Baylor to Liberty (FCS).


Am I missing a game? Only one P5 has lost to a non-P5 so far (CSU beating OSU). That is well below the average for week 1. Could be an anomaly, but it could be an indication of separation.

[U-Ute]

UNLV loses as a 45.5 point favorite to Howard. Largest spread upset ever.




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[sancho]

Baylor to Liberty (FCS).

Yup, forgot that one. Thanks

[UtahsMrSports]

A P5 school losing to an FCS team couldn't really have happened to a more deserving school, unless it was Penn State!

[NorthwestUteFan]

UNLV loses as a 45.5 point favorite to Howard. Largest spread upset ever.




Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI saw a tweet on that last night. A $100 bet on Howard paid about $2200.

Amazing.

[sancho]

Four can't miss games this week, and they're all at the same time. Come on!

Thursday: just watch the NFL.

Friday: Take your wife to dinner.

Saturday morning:

Northwestern @ Duke nerd bowl.
But there's also Louisville @ UNC and Iowa @ Iowa State (in-state rivalry #1).

Saturday early afternoon:

Pitt @ Penn State (in-state rivalry #2)
TCU @ Arkansas looks pretty good.
Keep an eye on Western Michigan @ Michigan State. The Mustangs hung with USC for 3 quarters last week.

Mid afternoon:

Nebraska @ Oregon.

Evening - all four games between ranked opponents!

Auburn @ Clemson
Oklahoma @ Ohio State
Georgia @ Notre Dame
Stanford @ USC

Late night:

Utah @ BYU (in-state rivalry #3)
Three Pac-12 teams (Zona, ASU, and Wazzu) are playing good G5 teams, so check for upset potential during Holy War commercial breaks.

[U-Ute]

Damn.

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[U-Ute]

Third and 93

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[sancho]

Week 3!

Thursday night: New Mexico @ Boise St. No team was screwed by realignment as much as Boise. We are witnessing the fall of the Broncos. I know, for some weird reason, Utah fans are happy about this, but college football was better with a great Boise St. The NFL game is a dud on Thurs, so might as well watch this.

Friday night: Illinois @ USF. I guess this game is still on? Rare ranked G5 vs unranked P5 game. Arizona @ UTEP is the late game if you want to scout our next opponent.

Sat morning:

The Hurricane took away the game of the week (Miami @ FSU). We'll have to make do with:

Okie St @ Pitt
UCLA @ Memphis

Sat afternoon:

Tennessee @ Florida. Early big SEC East game.
SMU @ TCU. Both 2-0? Not much in this time slot.

Sat evening is where the action really starts:

Clemson @ Louisville. This is the can't miss game of the week. Clemson has been dominating, and Lamar Jackson has been electric.
Texas @ USC. Herman has a huge opportunity here to accelerate the Longhorn rebuild.
LSU @ Miss St.

Sat late games:

SJSU @ Utah.
Check out Stanford @ SDSU and Ole Miss @ Cal during breaks in the main event.

[mUUser]

Week 3!

.....The NFL game is a dud on Thurs, so might as well watch this.

Friday night: Illinois @ USF. I guess this game is still on? Rare ranked G5 vs unranked P5 game. Arizona @ UTEP is the late game if you want to scout our next opponent.......


As an alternative tomorrow, for our Utah friends, you can also enjoy Lone Peak @ Kearns at 7p or on KJZZ. On paper, it should be a great game.

Of course on Friday, there are a lot of good HS games.

[sancho]

Utah State routed at Wake Forest. In two weeks, USU/BYU is "stoppable force meets movable object."

[hostile]

Utah State routed at Wake Forest. In two weeks, USU/BYU is "stoppable force meets movable object."

lol

[U-Ute]

I forgot to post this last week.

This happened in the days after Ohio State/Oklahoma game.

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[sancho]

Week 4 is here! Kinda. It will be here on Fri.

Thurs night. Temple at USF. Not much to see here. I guess Flowers for USF is supposed to be great. Might be worth a watch.

Fri night. Now you're talking.

UVA @ BSU as a warmup to Utah @ Zona

Not much on Sat morning:

NCState @ FSU. First game for 'noles with new QB.

Sat early afternoon really takes off:

TCU @ Okie State. Who doesn't like lots of points?
USC @ Cal.
Duke @ UNC. Why play for the victory bell in September?
Michigan @ Purdue. Boilermakers look like a new program with new coach.

Sat evening:

MSU @ UGA. Big time. Bulldogs thrashed LSU last week.
Notre Dame @ MSU.

Sat late game:

UW @ CU. Huge Pac-12 game.
We have both Oregon @ ASU (points!) and UCLA @ Stanford during commercial breaks in the UW game.

[sancho]

The return of P5 Thursday night football!

Texas @ ISU tonight

Cancel date night on Friday:

Miami @ Duke followed by USC @ Wazzu

Sat morning:

Pick your Big10 game: Northwestern @ Wisconsin or Maryland @ Minnesota

Sat early afternoon is not spectacular, but it's alright:

Indiana @ Penn St
Georgia @ Tennessee
ASU @ Stanford

Sat late afternoon:

MSU @ Auburn. Which bulldogs show up?

Sat evening:

Clemson @ Va Tech. Game of the day.
Ole Miss @ Bama. You never know.

Sat PacBeforeDawn:

CU @ UCLA
Cal @ Oregon

[chrisrenrut]

The return of P5 Thursday night football!

Texas @ ISU tonight

Cancel date night on Friday:

Miami @ Duke followed by USC @ Wazzu

Sat morning:

Pick your Big10 game: Northwestern @ Wisconsin or Maryland @ Minnesota

Sat early afternoon is not spectacular, but it's alright:

Indiana @ Penn St
Georgia @ Tennessee
ASU @ Stanford

Sat late afternoon:

MSU @ Auburn. Which bulldogs show up?

Sat evening:

Clemson @ Va Tech. Game of the day.
Ole Miss @ Bama. You never know.

Sat PacBeforeDawn:

CU @ UCLA
Cal @ Oregon

Thanks. I hate bye weeks. On normal game days, watching other games feels like a warm-up to the real event. Bye week games just make me listless. However, this weekend I'll be flying all day Saturday, so it won't be as bad.

[Scorcho]

The return of P5 Thursday night football!

Texas @ ISU tonight

Cancel date night on Friday:

Miami @ Duke followed by USC @ Wazzu

Sat morning:

Pick your Big10 game: Northwestern @ Wisconsin or Maryland @ Minnesota

Sat early afternoon is not spectacular, but it's alright:

Indiana @ Penn St
Georgia @ Tennessee
ASU @ Stanford

Sat late afternoon:

MSU @ Auburn. Which bulldogs show up?

Sat evening:

Clemson @ Va Tech. Game of the day.
Ole Miss @ Bama. You never know.

Sat PacBeforeDawn:

CU @ UCLA
Cal @ Oregon

I'm excited for UCS @ Wazzu, I think that should be a close one

[chrisrenrut]

I'm excited for UCS @ Wazzu, I think that should be a close one

Yeah, we are all big Wazzu fans this week. Go Cougars! (ew, that feels gross to type).

[sancho]

Yeah, we are all big Wazzu fans this week. Go Cougars! (ew, that feels gross to type).

Gross. I can't do it. I'll probably pull for USC.

[chrisrenrut]

Gross. I can't do it. I'll probably pull for USC.

What!?! If Utah has any chance at the PAC 12 South title, we need USC to lose at any opportunity.

[sancho]

What!?! If Utah has any chance at the PAC 12 South title, we need USC to lose at any opportunity.

I know, I know. I just don't like Wazzu. I don't like that they are becoming good. In the tier structure of the pac-12, there is only so much room in tier 2. I want Wazzu to drop to tier 3 so there's plenty of room for us.

I figure we'll just go 9-0 and leave 8-1 USC in 2nd place.

[sancho]

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[U-Ute]

Insane.

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[NorthwestUteFan]

Seeing that makes me miss Devontae Booker even more.

[sancho]

Good game tonight: Louisville @ NCState

Friday: Boise State @ BYU. The annual game between the two most prominent G5 also-rans of realignment. Both programs are now in noticeable decline.

Saturday morning:

#2, #3, #4, and #5 in the nation are all playing unranked teams in this time slot. Surely one of those games will be close, right?

Saturday afternoon:

West Va @ TCU. Pretty big game here.
Miami @ FSU. Seminole rebound vs in-state rival?
Maryland @ Ohio State. Can terps win @ Texas and @ OSU in the same season? Probably not.

Saturday evening:

Bama @ A&M. One of these days, someone will give Bama a game.
MSU @ Michigan. Hoping for another classic finish.
Wazzu @ Oregon. Ducks on third string QB but still have Freeman.

Saturday late night:

Stanford @ Utah. Ultimate white collar/blue collar game.
Cal @ UW. Check out the 4th quarter after the Utah game.

[Diehard Ute]

Watching Oklahoma vs Iowa St and they’re showing highlights from other games. They mention Barkley from PSU has -7 yards rushing today and ask if that hurts his Heisman chances.

The color commentator actually says it won’t hurt him at all, he’s too talented.....sure thing buddy, sure thing.


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[Mormon Red Death]

Watching Oklahoma vs Iowa St and they’re showing highlights from other games. They mention Barkley from PSU has -7 yards rushing today and ask if that hurts his Heisman chances.

The color commentator actually says it won’t hurt him at all, he’s too talented.....sure thing buddy, sure thing.


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He just had a 60 yard td

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[Scorcho]

Oregon State job just opened up, buh bye Gary Anderson

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Oregon State job just opened up, buh bye Gary Anderson

What a crazy story. Gary walks away from $11.6M just to get out of Corvallis. After walking away from Wisconsin. It will be very interesting to watch where he ends up.

http://uproxx.com/sports/oregon-state-gary-anderson-football-coach-fired-part-ways/

[sancho]

What a crazy story. Gary walks away from $11.6M just to get out of Corvallis. After walking away from Wisconsin. It will be very interesting to watch where he ends up.

http://uproxx.com/sports/oregon-state-gary-anderson-football-coach-fired-part-ways/

Nutty. I guess money doesn't mean that much to him.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

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[SoCalPat]

Nutty. I guess money doesn't mean that much to him.

I used to be all in favor of Gary being on a short list of HCs that could replace Kyle. I can't support these kinds of decisions -- bailing on team in midseason, not doing his homework on Wisconsin before taking that job, turning down $12 million (because he thinks he'll get another HC job? LOL). There are a few loose toys in Gary's attic, to be sure.

[sancho]

I used to be all in favor of Gary being on a short list of HCs that could replace Kyle. I can't support these kinds of decisions -- bailing on team in midseason, not doing his homework on Wisconsin before taking that job, turning down $12 million (because he thinks he'll get another HC job? LOL). There are a few loose toys in Gary's attic, to be sure.

No, he's not on any kind of HC list now. I'm fine with him as an assistant.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Did he quit or was he fired? I didn't read the article. If he quit I believe he owes OSU about $1.5M for his Wisconsin buyout.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Did he quit or was he fired? I didn't read the article. If he quit I believe he owes OSU about $1.5M for his Wisconsin buyout.

Mutual agreement.


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[Scorcho]

I used to be all in favor of Gary being on a short list of HCs that could replace Kyle. I can't support these kinds of decisions -- bailing on team in midseason, not doing his homework on Wisconsin before taking that job, turning down $12 million (because he thinks he'll get another HC job? LOL). There are a few loose toys in Gary's attic, to be sure.

good point

[sancho]

Worst week of the season for intriguing games. Zero games between ranked teams.

SunBelt Wednesdays start tonight, if you're into that kind of thing.

The Thursday game was postponed to Sat (GT @ Miami)

Friday late: Wazzu @ Cal. I can watch that for as long as it stays close.

Sat morning: I think Michigan @ Indiana is the best bet here. TCU @ Kstate has potential.

Sat afternoon:

Purdue @ Wiscy. Badgers just keep ripping teams apart.
OU @ Texas. Red River Rivalry.

Sat evening.
Utah @ USC.
I think MSU @ Minnesota, UCLA @ Arizona, and Ohio State @ Nebraska are the other games I'll keep an eye on.

Sat late:

Oregon @ Stanford with UW @ ASU during commercials.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Clemson and Washington State both get embarrassed tonight. Cal has held the Cougars to 3 points so far with 5 left.


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[chrisrenrut]

Clemson and Washington State both get embarrassed tonight. Cal has held the Cougars to 3 points so far with 5 left.


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Worst week of the season for intriguing games. Zero games between ranked teams.

i heard someone refer to this as upset weekend. It hasn't disappointed so far. Let's hope Utah can get in on the action.

[sancho]

Clemson and Washington State both get embarrassed tonight. Cal has held the Cougars to 3 points so far with 5 left.


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Hee hee. Love it.

[sancho]

Are you ready for some football?

Thursday: Memphis @ Houston. Tigers still in the running for NY6 G5 spot. BUT...watch Alex Smith tonight!

Friday: take the night off. You've been watching hard.

Saturday morning:

Okie St @ Texas. Longhorns have to win one of these big games to extend the the Herman honeymoon. Another close loss, and the natives will start getting restless.
Louisville @ FSU. Who would have guessed that this would be a match up of unranked teams with 1-3 and 2-2 conference records?

Early afternoon:

ASU @ Utah. 30-17, Utes.
UCF @ Navy. Another two frontrunners for the G5 birth.
Oregon @ UCLA. Scout out next week's opponent.

Sat. evening:

BYU @ ECU. Both once proud programs with large-ish fan bases that are now 1-6. Don't watch this game!
Michigan @ Penn State. The original white out is on. Watch this game!
USC @ Notre Dame. When was the last time ND played a truly big game? Here it is. Playoff elimination!
Zona @ Cal. For Pac-12 followers only.

Late Sat:

Some strong MWC action with Wyo @ BSU and Fresno @ SDSU.
CU @ Wazzu. You never know with Wazzu.

[sancho]

Michigan @ Penn State. The original white out is on. Watch this game!
USC @ Notre Dame. When was the last time ND played a truly big game? Here it is. Playoff elimination!


Add game 7 of the ALCS to the list of big games in this time slot. I wish I could spread them out a bit.

[sancho]

Nothing to get excited about tonight.

Friday night - Tulane @ Memphis. Roll Wave!

Sat morning:

Okie State @ WVU. Both ranked. Big game.

Sat afternoon:

PSU @ OSU. Game of the week. Winner almost a sure thing for playoff.
TCU @ ISU. Both ranked.
NCState @ Notre Dame. Both ranked.
Utah @ Oregon. Neither ranked. Big game for both teams' bowl hopes.

Sat evening has some good Pac-12 action
Wazzu @ Zona
USC @ ASU

[NorthwestUteFan]

Ugh. Stanford didn't deserve that win.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Boston College lays the smack down on Florida State, 35-3.

[UtahsMrSports]

When Penn St. loses, America wins. Great day for America !!

[sancho]

There is a MAC game tonight, in case you are a communist who will not watch the World Series.

Thursday - looks bad.

Friday - Utah Football!

Saturday is packed from start to finish. Great week this week. Sat morning:

PSU @ MSU. Both ranked.

Sat afternoon:

Clemson @ NCState. Awoooo!
Stanford @ WSU. Both ranked. Let's see if Falk learned whatever lesson he was supposed to learn from Leach's bizarre benching.
OU @ Okie State. Game of the week. Playoff hopes on the line for both teams.

Sat evening:

VaTech @ Miami. Another game between playoff contenders.
LSU @ Bama. Both ranked.

Late night Saturday:

Zona @ USC. Both ranked. South division lead at stake.

[sancho]

OSU routed by Iowa. PSU down to MSU. Big 10 getting interesting.

Clemson dodges the wolfpack bullet. Bedlam has 100+ points with 8 minutes to go. What a great sport.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Fire Urban!

[U-Ute]

The Lane Train keeps on rolling.

2285

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21326882/lane-kiffin-fau-owls-keep-winning-trolling-alabama-crimson-tide-nick-saban

[sancho]

This is week 11, and CFP implications are everywhere.

Friday night: UW @ Stanford. Huskies last shot at CFP for Pac-12.

Sat morning:

MSU @ OSU. Both ranked. Big10 east still up in the air.
Okie St @ ISU. Both ranked.

Sat early afternoon:

UGa @ Auburn. #1 vs #10.
Iowa @ Wisconsin. Iowa already spent it's annual "big upset" coin.

Sat afternoon:

WSU @ Utah.

Sat evening:

Bama @ Cowbell. Has anyone actually watched Bama this year? Not one game worth watching yet.
Notre Dame @ Miami. Playoff on the line. #3 vs #7.
TCU @ OU. #6 vs #5. So many big games!

Not much going on for Sat late night.

[sancho]

No weekday games worth watching this week. Also, it's SEC vs creampuff week. This may be the worst week of the season as far as intriguing match ups. Of course, that means it will be a day full of exciting chaos, right?

Sat morning:

UVa @ Miami. Bronco's chance at a signature win.
Michigan @ Wisconsin. No one seems able to slow down the badgers.

Sat afternoon:

Nothing. Seriously, nothing.

Sat evening:

Cal rivalry games: Cal/Stanford and USC/UCLA. For some reason, these games are played a week before rivalry week. Oh yeah, it's for a forced Notre Dame "rivalry".

Sat late:

Utah @ UW. The only must-see game of the day.

[Applejack]

Trouble for Miami. Down 17-7 in the fourth to Pitt.

(Where is Sancho with this week's games?)

[Applejack]

Trouble for Miami. Down 17-7 in the fourth to Pitt.

(Where is Sancho with this week's games?)

#2 goes down 24-14.

[sancho]

Trouble for Miami. Down 17-7 in the fourth to Pitt.

(Where is Sancho with this week's games?)

Dang it. I was so grateful for turkey that I forgot.

Miami losing is the first domino in the mass chaos playoff scenario.

[sancho]

#2 goes down 24-14.

Without more chaos, it probably didn't matter for Miami. The game against Clemson next week was always the one that matters.

[sancho]

The key today is Lindsay. If cu runs like asu did, we lose.

[sancho]

CFP picture is surprisingly clear:

We have Clemson/Miami, Auburn/UGA, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. If either Wisc or OU lose, we get Bama instead of a Big10/Big12 rep. If they both lose, we get Bama and Ohio State.

Thoughts:

1. It would be pretty funny if the new title game costs the Big12 a playoff spot.
2. It bugs me that we ignore bad losses in this selection process. If you lose to Syracuse or Pitt, you should be out. Period.
3. I don't think Miami is good.

[sancho]

Tenneseein' is Tennebelievin'. This has been a nice reminder that other fan bases can be just as insane as our own.

[UtahsMrSports]

Tenneseein' is Tennebelievin'. This has been a nice reminder that other fan bases can be just as insane as our own.

I saw SoCalPat talking about this on twitter but it was fascinating to watch unfold on twitter. Clay Travis was essentially the mob leader on this one and he quickly got the support of local political leaders. Pat Forde called Travis a 'Carnival Barker' and Doug Gottlieb (who hosts a show on the same network as Travis) got into a back and forth with him on twitter. Now its reached hte point where they want the AD fired, also with Travis as the instigator.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I saw SoCalPat talking about this on twitter but it was fascinating to watch unfold on twitter. Clay Travis was essentially the mob leader on this one and he quickly got the support of local political leaders. Pat Forde called Travis a 'Carnival Barker' and Doug Gottlieb (who hosts a show on the same network as Travis) got into a back and forth with him on twitter. Now its reached hte point where they want the AD fired, also with Travis as the instigator.Clay Travis may be exposed to legal liabilities on this move. He used clearly false statements (saying Greg Schiano covered up child rape at Penn State) to whip up fans to protest Tennessee hiring him as the HC.

Schiano is the DC at Ohio State and has done a marvellous job with Urban's D. He also won 11 games at Rutgers, of all places. He would be a decent choice at Tennessee. But because he coached at PSU from 1990-1995 he is now suspect of horrible crimes, at least by people who don't know anything and won't read about the actual facts.

Schiano was never even interviewed by the prosecutors in the case, because any accusations against him were found to be not credible. From PSU, Sandusky is in prison as are three administrators. JoePa probably would be also, if he hadn't kicked the bucket. If they had any further info on Schiano he would also be in hot water. I the truth is he wasn't even mentioned in the Freeh report.

Travis claiming Schiano covered up child rape and stirring up the shit may be found to be libellous. Schiano is going to sue Rocky Top for backing out of a deal worth guaranteed tens of millions, and UT might be wise to follow with a suit against Travis and his employer.

[UtahsMrSports]

Clay Travis may be exposed to legal liabilities on this move. He used clearly false statements (saying Greg Schiano covered up child rape at Penn State) to whip up fans to protest Tennessee hiring him as the HC.

Schiano is the DC at Ohio State and has done a marvellous job with Urban's D. He also won 11 games at Rutgers, of all places. He would be a decent choice at Tennessee. But because he coached at PSU from 1990-1995 he is now suspect of horrible crimes, at least by people who don't know anything and won't read about the actual facts.

Schiano was never even interviewed by the prosecutors in the case, because any accusations against him were found to be not credible. From PSU, Sandusky is in prison as are three administrators. JoePa probably would be also, if he hadn't kicked the bucket. If they had any further info on Schiano he would also be in hot water. I the truth is he wasn't even mentioned in the Freeh report.

Travis claiming Schiano covered up child rape and stirring up the shit may be found to be libellous. Schiano is going to sue Rocky Top for backing out of a deal worth guaranteed tens of millions, and UT might be wise to follow with a suit against Travis and his employer.

I don't think Travis is in any legal trouble. He merely pointed out that Schiano was named in court testimony, and that is true with the upshot being that Schiano had a part in the cover up, if the testimony is true.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I don't think Travis is in any legal trouble. He merely pointed out that Schiano was named in court testimony, and that is true with the upshot being that Schiano had a part in the cover up, if the testimony is true.But that is the point. The court testimony that was referenced was proven in court to be untruthful. For instance, the two counts against Sandusky derived from that testimony are the only two that he was not convicted on. That testimony was not true of Sandusky, and definitely was not true regarding Schiano. Like I said, Schiano was entirely cleared by the prosecutors and by the FBI. Tennessee fully vetted him and we're ready to present the contracts, when the backlash whipped into a frenzy.

I only care about this because I am interested to see how teams replace coaches. Count me as a person who thought Penn State should have been given the death penalty, and everybody involved in the program banned from football. But when I looked closer at the case, and Schiano in particular, there just is nothing linking him to the criminal activity.

Tennessee is considered a 'blue blood' in CFB, and the program is now a complete shit show who can't hire a coach to save their lives. I wish this would resonate with the #FireWhitt crowd, because 90% of the available coaches out there are worse or will bring worse baggage and we are more likely to end up in a worse position with a 90%-er than we are to hire a 10%-er who will take us further than Whitt already will.

[UtahsMrSports]

But that is the point. The court testimony that was referenced was proven in court to be untruthful. For instance, the two counts against Sandusky derived from that testimony are the only two that he was not convicted on. That testimony was not true of Sandusky, and definitely was not true regarding Schiano. Like I said, Schiano was entirely cleared by the prosecutors and by the FBI. Tennessee fully vetted him and we're ready to present the contracts, when the backlash whipped into a frenzy.

I only care about this because I am interested to see how teams replace coaches. Count me as a person who thought Penn State should have been given the death penalty, and everybody involved in the program banned from football. But when I looked closer at the case, and Schiano in particular, there just is nothing linking him to the criminal activity.

Tennessee is considered a 'blue blood' in CFB, and the program is now a complete shit show who can't hire a coach to save their lives. I wish this would resonate with the #FireWhitt crowd, because 90% of the available coaches out there are worse or will bring worse baggage and we are more likely to end up in a worse position with a 90%-er than we are to hire a 10%-er who will take us further than Whitt already will.

Schiano's name didn't come up until 3 years after Sandusky was convicted (2015 deposition that became public in 2016). The statement by McQuery has not in any way shape or form been proven false; its an unsubstantiated claim that both coaches involved have denied. Schiano's name had nothing to do at all, whatsoever with Sandusky's trial. If McQuery's statement had been proven false, he would have been tried for perjury. I don't know whether Schiano is guilty or not, but there is undeniable baggage with him now.

[concerned]

Schiano's name didn't come up until 3 years after Sandusky was convicted (2015 deposition that became public in 2016). The statement by McQuery has not in any way shape or form been proven false; its an unsubstantiated claim that both coaches involved have denied. Schiano's name had nothing to do at all, whatsoever with Sandusky's trial. If McQuery's statement had been proven false, he would have been tried for perjury. I don't know whether Schiano is guilty or not, but there is undeniable baggage with him now.

C'mon. McQuery made a hearsay statement that has no foundation and by definition cannot be proven false. Sciano or anybody else deserves more than that, with his reputation at stake, as both Penn Sate and Ohio State officials have affirmed. He shouldn't have the baggage you describe and you cant right it off as undeniable.

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[chrisrenrut]

Clay Travis is a smart guy. His wording from all the tweets and articles I can see are ambiguous enough (may have covered up. . ., according to court testimony. . .) that I don't think he would liable. I'm not a lawyer so I can't say for sure. But guess what, Clay Travis is a lawyer, so he likely knows the boundaries not to cross.

Edit- I'm not saying I think what Clay did was right. I don't like it when the twitter mob is whipped into a frenzy on baseless allegations. And looking at Clay's history, they guy seems like a world class jerk, so it isn't surprising that he did something like this.

[UtahsMrSports]

C'mon. McQuery made a hearsay statement that has no foundation and by definition cannot be proven false. Sciano or anybody else deserves more than that, with his reputation at stake, as both Penn Sate and Ohio State officials have affirmed. He shouldn't have the baggage you describe and you cant right it off as undeniable.

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No one at Penn St, Ohio St, Tennessee or anywhere else has any idea if GS is guilty of this or not. The only three who know are MM and the two mentioned in the deposition. Having an accusation against you is baggage, fair or not (I'd say unfair, but that is life unfortunately). This is all I am saying.

[sancho]

Championship week!

Friday night: the humble Pac-12 title game. Nothing on the line, but we have a chance to see the team with the talent face the team with the coach. USC dominated round one, but Stanford seems to have improved quite a bit during the season. Line USC by 3.5.

Sat morning:

AAC. Memphis @ UCF. Go Tigers. NY6 bowl game on the line.
MAC. Akron vs Toledo in Detroit. Akron is 7-5 and playing for a title.
CUSA. North Texas @ FAU. Kiffin has dedicated his season to winning games and trolling his former employers on Twitter. Go Kiffin, I guess.

Big12. TCU vs OU. Sooners wrecked them in the first meeting. Line OU by 7.

Sat afternoon:

SEC. UGA vs Auburn. Auburn by 2.5. Tigers rolled in their first meeting. UGa complained a lot about the officiating.

Sat evening:

MWC. Fresno @ Boise. Boise by 8.5. The committee ranked Fresno for the sole purpose of giving Alabama an extra top 25 win. Bulldogs are 50+ ranking in Sagarin. Won't matter after Boise beats them.

Miami vs Clemson. Clemson -9.5. Oddsmakers and sancho agree - Miami is lucky, not good.

OSU vs Wisconsin. OSU -6.5. We all remember what happened last time. Can Badgers get revenge? Wisconsin is the underdog.

Reminder: the media tries to generate discussion by pretending there are many CFP scenarios, but the picture is quite clear:

1) Clemson/Miami winner.
2) Auburn/Georgia winner.
3) OU if they win.
4) Wisconsin if they win.
5) Bama if either OU or Wisc loses.
6) OSU if both OU and Wisc lose.

[UtahsMrSports]

Clay Travis is a smart guy. His wording from all the tweets and articles I can see are ambiguous enough (may have covered up. . ., according to court testimony. . .) that I don't think he would liable. I'm not a lawyer so I can't say for sure. But guess what, Clay Travis is a lawyer, so he likely knows the boundaries not to cross.

Edit- I'm not saying I think what Clay did was right. I don't like it when the twitter mob is whipped into a frenzy on baseless allegations. And looking at Clay's history, they guy seems like a world class jerk, so it isn't surprising that he did something like this.

This is what I have been trying to say, but you put it much better than I. I came off somewhat antagonizing.

Clay is an interesting guy. Years ago he was on 1280 the zone weekly before he made it big. He seemed like just another guy with a blog. Since he has 'blown up', I have seen him antagonize ESPN personalities over potentially losing their job, call people who get bumped off airplanes 'Losers' because they aren't in first class, subsequently get bumped off an airplane because his son had lice (only to write a scathing column about how airlines shouldn't bump people off for no reason). brag about his ratings, brag about how much money he has, go on long tirades and emphatically block people from his daily afternoon show (which he broadcasts from a phone in his house) because they dared to disagree with him. His tuesday "anonymous mailbags" are the stuff of high school wanna be frat boys.

Hes found a niche playing a right wing sports personality and he tries to be something between Sean Hannity and Howard Stern. Under the right conditions, he can be entertaining, but he can also be a complete and total clown.

[UBlender]

Reminder: the media tries to generate discussion by pretending there are many CFP scenarios, but the picture is quite clear:

1) Clemson/Miami winner.
2) Auburn/Georgia winner.
3) OU if they win.
4) Wisconsin if they win.
5) Bama if either OU or Wisc loses.
6) OSU if both OU and Wisc lose.

Scenario: Auburn narrowly beats Georgia, OU loses a heartbreaker to TCU, Ohio State narrowly beats Wisconsin. Conventional thinking seems to be that OSU is in the playoff, but....why?

I think many teams would be completely out of the picture with two losses, one of which was by a million points against Iowa.

I think Georgia would have a case to be in based on only having a loss to a playoff team (the case against them would be that nobody wants to see Auburn-Georgia for a third time).

OU's loss to Iowa State may cancel out OSU's loss to Iowa, but since OU planted the flag in the horseshoe they should get the nod if both teams have two losses.

(As far as I can tell, Utah's bowl prospects are improved by the PAC 12 getting two teams in the NY6 which is more likely if TCU loses, so we are probably OU fans this weekend. Beyond that, cheer for chaos).

[sancho]

but....why?


Why?

1) Because OSU is OSU. We've seen this before.
2) OSU is a conference champ in this scenario, and OU is not.
2) You don't take an OU team that just lost when you can have an OSU that just won.

Resume can only take you so far in this process. Timing of wins/losses, history, tradition, brand name, respect of head coach, recruiting rankings, etc - all of these things fall under what the committee calls the "eye test". The eye test is the most important of all factors the because it is the only separator when a bunch of teams check everything else off the list.

Good record? Check
Quality wins? Check
One or fewer bad loss? Check
Conference champ? Check

Everything checks out - time for the eye test! "Whoa, are you saying you think Paul Chryst's Badgers would beat Nick Saban's Tide on a neutral field?? No way!" Eye test.

Your's is the nightmare scenario for the Big12. If they had never added this title game, OU would already home comfortably watching other teams sweat it out.

[U-Ute]

Athalon ranks Utah #10 in football social media accounts.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-college-footballs-best-worst-twitter-accounts-2017-18-south-carolina-clemson-oregon-auburn-ohio-state-oklahoma-virginia-tech-utah

[sancho]

Championship week!

Friday night: the humble Pac-12 title game. Nothing on the line, but we have a chance to see the team with the talent face the team with the coach. USC dominated round one, but Stanford seems to have improved quite a bit during the season. Line USC by 3.5.


Good one in the bay going into the 4th quarter. Just saw an all time epic flop draw a 15 yard flag.

[chrisrenrut]

Good one in the bay going into the 4th quarter. Just saw an all time epic flop draw a 15 yard flag.

Ha ha, yep. If he would have hopped one or two more times on the way down, he would have looked like Dillon Brooks from last year.

That was a good game. For the fist time I a few years it wasn’t a blow out. And finally, a South team wins it.

[sancho]

Ultimate Whittingham drive going on right now for OSU. Run, run, run with the lead and then go for it on 4th and 1.

[Scorcho]

Ultimate Whittingham drive going on right now for OSU. Run, run, run with the lead and then go for it on 4th and 1.

come on Badgers

[sancho]

come on Badgers

Close game essentially decided by a non-call on the pass interference. Bummer. So close to having a team in the playoff worth rooting for.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Boo. But not surprising.

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[sancho]

Boo. But not surprising.


Yup, why the boo? Who did you want instead?

The media have been telling me I should be excited about this. I don't think they "get" the average fan. I don't need to see the same teams in the playoff season after season after season. I want underdogs and fresh blood. Who am I supposed to be excited about in this mix? I guess that's the reason the regular season has always trumped the postseason in college football.

[sancho]

So UW got into a NY6 bowl. Not sure how that changes things for us, but it must have some effect.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Yup, why the boo? Who did you want instead?

The media have been telling me I should be excited about this. I don't think they "get" the average fan. I don't need to see the same teams in the playoff season after season after season. I want underdogs and fresh blood. Who am I supposed to be excited about in this mix? I guess that's the reason the regular season has always trumped the postseason in college football.That is exactly how I feel about our OOC schedule each year.

[U-Ute]

No son.

U7AVHF0

[sancho]

Herbie is giving Boise St the old "Oregon doesn't want to be here" routine. Always good for a laugh.

[sancho]

Herbie is giving Boise St the old "Oregon doesn't want to be here" routine. Always good for a laugh.


...and Boise remains unbeaten vs Oregon all time. Ducks could have hired Harsin. We'll see how Mario goes.

I still don't like the trend of skipping bowl games to prepare for the combine. We are in a me first world, though.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I love that two of two teams we struggle against in this league just blew up their coaching staffs and may take a few years to recover.

[sancho]

I just added this bowl game schedule to my google calendar:

http://christianboyce.com/ical-college-football-bowl-calendar/

Warms my heart to see all the games when I open my calendar.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I hate Bama, but this is pretty great.

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[U-Ute]

I hate Bama, but this is pretty great.

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Well played by Jaylen.

LOL