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LA Ute
12-03-2017, 04:09 PM
Official web site, Heart of Dallas Bowl:

http://www.theheartofdallasbowl.com/

Salt Lake Tribune story:

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2017/12/03/utah-will-face-west-virginia-in-heart-of-dallas-bowl-on-dec-26/

The Smoking Musket's story:

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2017/12/3/16731334/wvu-to-play-utah-in-heart-of-dallas-bowl-on-dec-26

sancho
12-03-2017, 05:28 PM
I saw the WVU QB Grier dislocate or break his finger a couple weeks ago. So the first question is whether he'll be playing.

Mormon Red Death
12-03-2017, 05:34 PM
I saw the WVU QB Grier dislocate or break his finger a couple weeks ago. So the first question is whether he'll be playing.The article said he broke his hand

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Dwight Schr-Ute
12-14-2017, 05:54 PM
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Diehard Ute
12-15-2017, 07:02 AM
Whitt said yesterday it looks good for Huntley to play.

Cooper Bateman has left the team and will not be at the bowl game.

Interesting reading the WVU board. I get the distinct feeling they don’t know much about Utah football.


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Applejack
12-15-2017, 07:07 AM
Whitt said yesterday it looks good for Huntley to play.

Cooper Bateman has left the team and will not be at the bowl game.

Interesting reading the WVU board. I get the distinct feeling they don’t know much about Utah football.


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I guess Bateman didn't want to be in Dallas over Christmas. Sad.

Diehard Ute
12-15-2017, 07:46 AM
I guess Bateman didn't want to be in Dallas over Christmas. Sad.

I can relate. I try to avoid Dallas at all costs....but the bowl swag might have persuaded me.


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Applejack
12-15-2017, 08:01 AM
I can relate. I try to avoid Dallas at all costs....but the bowl swag might have persuaded me.


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Good on you! I was set to head to Shreveport, but the day after Christmas makes it difficult for me.

Enjoy big D.

Diehard Ute
12-15-2017, 08:13 AM
Good on you! I was set to head to Shreveport, but the day after Christmas makes it difficult for me.

Enjoy big D.

Oh, I’m not going to the game.

Can’t get time off, you have to request that week off 9-10 months in advance in my line of work.

I was just saying if I was Bateman the bowl swag may have persuaded me.


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UTEopia
12-16-2017, 08:30 AM
I'm a little disappointed that Whit came out and said that Huntley would start if healthy. I think Williams performance against CU should have given him the opportunity to start his final game. I feel more confident with Williams at QB than Huntley, mostly because we seem to be able to run the ball more effectively. I guess WVU plays a very similar defense to Arizona. I think that helps us in bowl prep.

concerned
12-16-2017, 08:39 AM
I'm a little disappointed that Whit came out and said that Huntley would start if healthy. I think Williams performance against CU should have given him the opportunity to start his final game. I feel more confident with Williams at QB than Huntley, mostly because we seem to be able to run the ball more effectively. I guess WVU plays a very similar defense to Arizona. I think that helps us in bowl prep.

dont they know if he is going to be healthy or not? Who is getting the reps in practice? Or is it just mostly the younger players until game prep week?

sancho
12-16-2017, 10:17 AM
I'm a little disappointed that Whit came out and said that Huntley would start if healthy. I think Williams performance against CU should have given him the opportunity to start his final game.

Is this about rewarding Troy as a senior or about giving us the best chance to win? I'm not sure CU should be used as a gauge. The offense (and run game) were just as good against UCLA under Huntley as they were against CU under Williams. Those were the two worst run defenses on our conference schedule (maybe our schedule overall?).

Brian
12-17-2017, 12:46 PM
Tyler needs experience, and to learn how to hand off the ball.
If he’s healthy, I want him to play.

LA Ute
12-17-2017, 10:40 PM
I think it was Riley indulging the other day who were talking about Zack Moss, speculating that he runs better when Williams is playing quarterback because Troy gives Zack the ball and doesn’t compete with him for running plays the way Huntley does. It also seems to me that Huntley is simply bound to get injured — missing a few games every season, like he did this year — if he keeps running as much as he does. Maybe the answer is for the coaches to dial Tyler’s running plays back — try to make the opposing team worry about him running, keeping them honest at all times so that they can’t cheat in coverage — but not send him sprinting into the secondary quite as often as he has been.

Thoughts?

UTEopia
12-18-2017, 12:24 PM
Is this about rewarding Troy as a senior or about giving us the best chance to win? I'm not sure CU should be used as a gauge. The offense (and run game) were just as good against UCLA under Huntley as they were against CU under Williams. Those were the two worst run defenses on our conference schedule (maybe our schedule overall?).

I think it is about winning the game. WVU's weakness on defense is against the run. I think we run the ball differently and better with Williams at QB.

chrisrenrut
12-23-2017, 11:18 PM
Ours is the next bowl game up! Bring on the hill-anniers.

Diehard Ute
12-24-2017, 08:48 AM
Ours is the next bowl game up! Bring on the hill-anniers.

Fresno St vs Houston in Hawai’i is today.


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chrisrenrut
12-24-2017, 12:28 PM
Fresno St vs Houston in Hawai’i is today.


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Dammit, I guess I should learn how to read ESPN's bowl game schedule.

Scorcho
12-26-2017, 09:32 AM
I hope the offensive staff at Utah sat Tyler down with some video of Zach Moss during the Colorado game and said, "here is what Zach Moss does when he gets the ball and some rhythm carries vs. this is what Zach does when you pull the ball out and try to make a play on your own. Give Moss the damn ball!"

concerned
12-26-2017, 10:11 AM
I hope the offensive staff at Utah sat Tyler down with some video of Zach Moss during the Colorado game and said, "here is what Zach Moss does when he gets the ball and some rhythm carries vs. this is what Zach does when you pull the ball out and try to make a play on your own. Give Moss the damn ball!"

I was just listening to Riley and Dolce pregame. Dolce pointed out that Huntley takes far too long to make the zone read, and it costs Moss momentum when he does get the ball. He said Troy W. makes the read much faster, and that Huntley has to get to that place. And of course he said Huntley needs to keep it much less.

Dwight Schr-Ute
12-26-2017, 11:26 AM
Reports are the Siosi Wilson and Chase Hansen are on the “out” list.


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Dwight Schr-Ute
12-26-2017, 11:29 AM
Also Bryan Thompson.


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Dwight Schr-Ute
12-26-2017, 11:37 AM
I hope the offensive staff at Utah sat Tyler down with some video of Zach Moss during the Colorado game and said, "here is what Zach Moss does when he gets the ball and some rhythm carries vs. this is what Zach does when you pull the ball out and try to make a play on your own. Give Moss the damn ball!"

Nope!


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Dwight Schr-Ute
12-26-2017, 11:40 AM
Okay. Maybe.


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Dwight Schr-Ute
12-26-2017, 11:49 AM
Wow. West Virginia backup QB looks awful, so far. Almost as bad as our kick off team.


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tooblue
12-26-2017, 12:31 PM
I have a good friend who is at the game. His seats are four rows up basically at the 50 yard line. Cost him $20 a ticket. Is there even 500 people in the stadium?

Happy Boxing Day Utahby5!

LA Ute
12-26-2017, 12:40 PM
I have a good friend who is at the game. His seats are four rows up basically at the 50 yard line. Cost him $20 a ticket. Is there even 500 people in the stadium?

Happy Boxing Day Utahby5!

As expected, attendance is indeed awful. Thanks, and I hope you had a great Christmas.

arizonaute
12-26-2017, 12:40 PM
good play call fake pitch and Hundley runs it in. That is how Hundley should run.

Jack Tuttle can start practicing that one

chrisrenrut
12-26-2017, 01:02 PM
Both offense and defense lines came to play today.

Applejack
12-26-2017, 01:02 PM
I have a good friend who is at the game. His seats are four rows up basically at the 50 yard line. Cost him $20 a ticket. Is there even 500 people in the stadium?

Happy Boxing Day Utahby5!

:kyle:

chrisrenrut
12-26-2017, 01:36 PM
Both offense and defense lines came to play today.

Except for our C, with the low snaps.

chrisrenrut
12-26-2017, 01:40 PM
Why do we line up all our gunners on the punt team to the right, when Wishnowski rolls to the right? It makes it so he is rolling right into 5 or 6 defenders.

chrisrenrut
12-26-2017, 01:54 PM
Double post. Hands of stone, like most of the receivers in this game.

tooblue
12-26-2017, 01:57 PM
:Kyle:

Uhm, a former mission companion that lives in Dallas and works for a video game company. He grew up a Husker fan, but Lived in Salt lake for several years.

Hey, aren't flights from DC to Dallas cheap? How come you are not at the game?

:notarealfan:

LA Ute
12-26-2017, 02:09 PM
Uhm, a former mission companion that lives in Dallas and works for a video game company. He grew up a Husker fan, but Lived in Salt lake for several years.

Hey, aren't flights from DC to Dallas cheap? How come you are not at the game?

:notarealfan:

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chrisrenrut
12-26-2017, 02:10 PM
Uhm, a former mission companion that lives in Dallas and works for a video game company. He grew up a Husker fan, but Lived in Salt lake for several years.

Hey, aren't flights from DC to Dallas cheap? How come you are not at the game?

:notarealfan:

When I checked just after the bowl game announcement, flights were about $800 round trip.

sancho
12-26-2017, 02:16 PM
So that's why we don't throw to the TE.

tooblue
12-26-2017, 02:17 PM
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UTEopia
12-26-2017, 02:29 PM
I am not sold on Huntley or Troy Taylor

sancho
12-26-2017, 02:39 PM
I am not sold on Huntley or Troy Taylor

Sold on them meaning what? Huntley isn't going to win the Heisman, but he looks at least as good as anyone else we've used in the pac12. Same for Taylor.

LA Ute
12-26-2017, 02:46 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b-2qXzznCXI/maxresdefault.jpg

Never expect a politician to get it right.

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UTEopia
12-26-2017, 03:20 PM
Sold on them meaning what? Huntley isn't going to win the Heisman, but he looks at least as good as anyone else we've used in the pac12. Same for Taylor.

I guess I was hoping they would be an upgrade.

justaute
12-26-2017, 03:23 PM
I guess I was hoping they would be an upgrade.

At least Tuttle is coming in. Let's see if our receiving corp will be any good. If o-line can block. If TE can catch. If schemes are any good. If center can snap. :)

sancho
12-26-2017, 03:27 PM
I guess I was hoping they would be an upgrade.

Fair enough. They may turn out to be upgrades. For now, at least they aren't downgrades. Next season is a big one for us.

Did WVU watch Utah game film? Why did they initially only rush 3 on big downs? They caught on quickly and started blitzing instead.

Moss was great, as usual for the 2nd half of this season.

I'm all for the RPO; it can be devastating when done well. But I wouldn't mind some called runs mixed in while we try to get there. There are just too many instances where we aren't in sync.

WVU was pretty bad, but I'll happily take a dominating bowl win against a P5 team.

tooblue
12-26-2017, 03:37 PM
Never expect a politician to get it right.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171226/a649371829a246ab8b3033c1db95d624.jpg

Like this then:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/17/20/4674133000000578-0-image-a-30_1510948943606.jpg

Nice Marmot
12-26-2017, 03:51 PM
I am not sold on Huntley or Troy Taylor

Me either. Huntley isn't accurate enough downfield, at least not compared to PAC QBs.

Taylor doesn't seem to have an identity. I think it's a no-brainer to be a run first offense but that seems to change from game to game. Give Moss the ball then let the throw game open up.

LA Ute
12-26-2017, 04:29 PM
Like this then:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/17/20/4674133000000578-0-image-a-30_1510948943606.jpg

Sometimes even a blind squirrel...you know the rest.