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UtahsMrSports
12-08-2017, 12:52 PM
Interesting piece from Kurt Kragthorpe. I appreciate that he has taken the high road as opposed to the tantrum most media folks have taken about Utah not playing the smaller in state schools (somewhat of a myth anyway)

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/12/08/kragthorpe-beehive-classic-at-last-is-a-reality-but-will-it-catch-on-with-fans/

I will be interested to see if this 'Classic' lasts more than 3 years...
sancho
12-08-2017, 12:57 PM
Interesting piece from Kurt Kragthorpe. I appreciate that he has taken the high road as opposed to the tantrum most media folks have taken about Utah not playing the smaller in state schools (somewhat of a myth anyway)

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/12/08/kragthorpe-beehive-classic-at-last-is-a-reality-but-will-it-catch-on-with-fans/

I will be interested to see if this 'Classic' lasts more than 3 years...

This thing would be far more interesting as an actual tournament, and my understanding is that the NCAA won't allow that without it costing us the better November tournaments.
UtahsMrSports
12-08-2017, 01:09 PM
This thing would be far more interesting as an actual tournament, and my understanding is that the NCAA won't allow that without it costing us the better November tournaments.

Yep. Personally, I think we went along with this as a way to appease some of the legislature that seems to like wasting their time on issues like 'Who are the Runnin' Utes playing?'.

I just looked up ticket prices and found that the worst seats in the house are going for 28 bucks. I imagine attendance will be terrible.
Scorcho
12-08-2017, 01:20 PM
as far as entertainment value is concerned, its just not a great product. Four average to poor teams and few if any players that will play at the next level (maybe Tillman).

I cant name a single player from USU, Weber State and the only players I know from BYU are Haws and Childs.
Diehard Ute
12-08-2017, 02:21 PM
as far as entertainment value is concerned, its just not a great product. Four average to poor teams and few if any players that will play at the next level (maybe Tillman).

I cant name a single player from USU, Weber State and the only players I know from BYU are Haws and Childs.

As I told some people on Twitter, this kind of thing almost feels like a screw you to season ticket holders. The game is 4 miles from your home arena, but you have to pay $70 a seat for a comparable ticket, on top of the hundreds you paid for your season ticket.

As for players....I saw an interesting tweet the other night. BYU’s last game had a milestone. It was their first game this year when someone other than Childs had a dunk.

They had 14 dunks in their games....all by him. Who knew they were actually going with scholarship ward ball.


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DrumNFeather
12-08-2017, 04:42 PM
I think it would be more fun to make it an all day thing and have it be a state vs. state challenge kind of thing. So, let's take Washington as an example...bring in four other teams:

Weber St. vs. Seattle
Utah St. vs. Eastern Washington
BYU vs. Washington (or Washington St.)
Utah vs. Gonzaga

Bada bing bada boom! Problem solved.
sancho
12-08-2017, 05:29 PM
I think it would be more fun to make it an all day thing and have it be a state vs. state challenge kind of thing. So, let's take Washington as an example...bring in four other teams:

Weber St. vs. Seattle
Utah St. vs. Eastern Washington
BYU vs. Washington (or Washington St.)
Utah vs. Gonzaga

Bada bing bada boom! Problem solved.

I like this.
chrisrenrut
12-09-2017, 06:12 PM
Caldwell getting a lot of action. I haven’t seen Tillman? Anyone know if/why he is out?
sancho
12-09-2017, 06:19 PM
Caldwell getting a lot of action. I haven’t seen Tillman? Anyone know if/why he is out?

2 personal fouls. Sitting until the 2nd half.
Mormon Red Death
12-09-2017, 06:41 PM
Battle of the brothers!

Btw utah was -6 four the game

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Mormon Red Death
12-09-2017, 06:56 PM
What has happened to barefield?

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Mormon Red Death
12-09-2017, 07:49 PM
10 point win for a game in which the refs decided they wanted to call fouls on whoever.


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Solon
12-09-2017, 08:10 PM
10 point win for a game in which the refs decided they wanted to call fouls on whoever.


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Really good team FT percentage tonight. Nice way to ice the game late.
Diehard Ute
12-09-2017, 09:08 PM
Really good team FT percentage tonight. Nice way to ice the game late.

For the season the Utes are at 80% from the stripe. It’s been a while since we’ve been close to that.


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SoCalPat
12-11-2017, 01:07 PM
For the season the Utes are at 80% from the stripe. It’s been a while since we’ve been close to that.


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10th nationally. But even then there's a dark cloud to this stat -- Utah is tied for 197th nationally in FTAs per game.
UBlender
12-11-2017, 04:41 PM
10th nationally. But even then there's a dark cloud to this stat -- Utah is tied for 197th nationally in FTAs per game.

Barefield (and to a lesser extent Bibbins and Bealer) has got to get better at getting himself to the line a lot more often. He's been struggling mightily from the field and he's someone Utah needs to generate some offense. Instead of jacking jumpers he's got to attack and create more opportunities from the line.