SOCAL is where my mind is... Utah @ UCLA and USC

[Mormon Red Death]

@UCLA 1/11 11PM EST ESPN2
@USC 1/14 8pm EST ESPNU

If we can get a split then 3rd place is not out of question. Below are the stats of first 4 games. Besides Seeley being part of the club trillion (2 minutes played 00000000000 everything else. Oh wait he had 1 turnvover). PVD and Bealer have played like shit. No wonder Kolbe Caldwell has as many minutes as both of them combined. He's made more 3s. His only problem are the turnovers. In all honesty he should be starting. Solon was down on Barefield but honestly he might be the best guard in the conference. In fact, both him and Bibbins are playing like 1st team all conference players.



Players
Minutes
FGMade
FGAttempt
FG %
3PT Made
3PT Attempt
3PT %
Turnover
Points


J. BibbinsG
155
21
43
48.8%
13
29
44.8%
5
73


S. BarefieldG
142
19
48
39.6%
14
33
42.4%
2
69


D. ColletteF
107
22
36
61.1%
0
0
0.0%
7
58


T. RawsonF
132
12
27
44.4%
6
16
37.5%
11
42


K. CaldwellG
89
6
11
54.5%
5
8
62.5%
8
17


J. JohnsonF
66
4
10
40.0%
0
0
0.0%
3
16


D. TillmanF
19
3
7
42.9%
0
1
0.0%
1
6


G. BealerG
46
2
12
16.7%
2
8
25.0%
0
6


P. Van DykeG
42
1
6
16.7%
1
5
20.0%
0
4


C. SeeleyF
2
0
0
0.0%
0
0
0.0%
1
0


C. PopoolaG
0
0
0
0.0%
0
0
0.0%
0
0


Grand Total
800
90
200
45.0%
41
100
41.0%
38
291

[Diehard Ute]

Per Riley, no Tillman and no Jayce Johnson (stomach virus)


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[sancho]

Per Riley, no Tillman and no Jayce Johnson (stomach virus)


Oh man. We are not good or deep enough to survive this injury/sickness stuff.

Isn't Jayce from CA? I wonder if he had family/friends coming to the game.

This is Jokl's big outbreak game.

[Mormon Red Death]

Well tough to win when ucla is shooting 90% from the field with 6 3 pointers in the first 5 minutes

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[Mormon Red Death]

Seely actually playing and Showing something

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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Bill Walton just inferred that Tillman has a stress fracture in his foot.


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[Mormon Red Death]

The poopoo platter with an appearance! We can beat these guys if Holliday ever misses

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[DrumNFeather]

Sure seems like teams are hitting threes at a ridiculous clip against us.

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[Mormon Red Death]

The poopoo platter with an appearance! We can beat these guys if Holliday ever misses

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Yeah he didn't miss

[DrumNFeather]

I like what we've seen from Seeley tonight, but that's about it for the list of positives.

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[DrumNFeather]

I'm glad that Larry had the good sense to get some of the younger guys playing time once the game got out of hand. UCLA was like 12-20 from three point land, and it felt like a lot more than that. I think we can all agree that if we were going to get one on this road swing, it was going to be USC, so here's hoping that the rest will pay off.

[Diehard Ute]

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Looks like Tillman is practicing....


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[Mormon Red Death]

where's the shooting ucla? 0-6 from 3 midway thru the first half against Colorado. They had made 8 by this point against utah

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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Reports are that Tillman is warming up and looks good to go.

Players sporting some regionally appropriate tops during warm ups.




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[sancho]

Turns out teams shoot a higher than average 3FG% if you give them lots of open shots.

[Solon]

Turns out teams shoot a higher than average 3FG% if you give them lots of open shots.
This is embarrassing.

[sancho]

This is embarrassing.

Yes. There was a bit of hope after the Oregon and Arizona series that we could be a middle of the road Pac-12 team. Now, it looks like we are #10 in the conference. Brutal.

[Mormon Red Death]

Yes. There was a bit of hope after the Oregon and Arizona series that we could be a middle of the road Pac-12 team. Now, it looks like we are #10 in the conference. Brutal.We've had the toughest schedule. We will sweep the wash schools next week.

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[sancho]

I would place my money on Seeley over Boatwright in a fight. I think I'd put my money on any Ute other than Jokl over Boatwright.

[Mormon Red Death]

I would place my money on Seeley over Boatwright in a fight. I think I'd put my money on any Ute other than Jokl over Boatwright.Bullshit double tech... they should send that to the league. Boatright was just pissed cause he was stuffed

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[Solon]

Bullshit double tech... they should send that to the league. Boatright was just pissed cause he was stuffed

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What a dreadful road trip. Losses by 19 and 17.

What has happened to Barefield?
0 points tonight. Only had 4 vs UCLA.

[sancho]

What a dreadful road trip. Losses by 19 and 17.

What has happened to Barefield?
0 points tonight. Only had 4 vs UCLA.

Wild swings have been a part of Barefield for as long as we've known him. As a fan, you get your hopes up with each good game that he has finally broken through.

We continue to have nothing in the 2/3 slot. Bealer, Caldwell, PVD, Popoola. I know there was consensus here about Daniels needing to go, but, man, we could really use him now. He would get 40 minutes a game.

[SeattleUte]

I didn’t agree Daniels needed to go.

[SoCalPat]

When teams shoot against us like they did the last two nights, we will get rolled every time. That sounds like I'm staying the obvious, but this team is dead last in the league in offensive rebounds and steals, and 11th in blocked shots.

That season opening road sweep seems so long ago ...

[UtahsMrSports]

When teams shoot against us like they did the last two nights, we will get rolled every time. That sounds like I'm staying the obvious, but this team is dead last in the league in offensive rebounds and steals, and 11th in blocked shots.

That season opening road sweep seems so long ago ...

I'm hoping a visit from the Washington schools helps us recover some of that mojo. If not, we are out of contention for any postseason appearance. Tough pill to swallow.

[UtahsMrSports]

Wild swings have been a part of Barefield for as long as we've known him. As a fan, you get your hopes up with each good game that he has finally broken through.

We continue to have nothing in the 2/3 slot. Bealer, Caldwell, PVD, Popoola. I know there was consensus here about Daniels needing to go, but, man, we could really use him now. He would get 40 minutes a game.

I get your point on Daniels because a player of his caliber and skill set would be really really really (*6285337^9999999) helpful right now, no doubt.

I would modify your statement to "consensus among those who knew what he did and what would have happened if he stayed".

The final 20% of the season last year, we were decidedly better with him parked on the bench to boot.

[LA Ute]

I didn't see the usual effort from the players this time. Rebounding is mainly effort. It's never been a strong point under LK, especially offensive rebounding. Makes me wonder about the coaches' ability to motivate.


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[sancho]

Rebounding is mainly effort.

I don't think this is true. I think effort is important, but rebounding requires skill, instinct, intuition, athleticism, and confidence in addition. It's like any other aspect of the game in that way.

[LA Ute]

I don't think this is true. I think effort is important, but rebounding requires skill, instinct, intuition, athleticism, and confidence in addition. It's like any other aspect of the game in that way.

It begins with effort.

[Rocker Ute]

Let's say that effort is a necessary but not sufficient condition.

Feels like this is a good time to talk about synergy.

Did I ever tell you guys about asking Kodiak to speak to the alumni association after his first year coaching?


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[LA Ute]

Question: Was this the worst road trip in the history of the Larry era?

[LA Ute]

Feels like this is a good time to talk about synergy.

Did I ever tell you guys about asking Kodiak to speak to the alumni association after his first year coaching?


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I don’t think so, but I think you should.


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[Rocker Ute]

I don’t think so, but I think you should.


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After his first year we asked Kodiak to speak to the Alumni Association. When the coaches speak it is always the most popular. He asked us what we wanted him to speak about and we told him whatever he’d like but maybe something motivational, info on the team, etc.

So he shows up with a bankers box full of copies he made to hand out with quotes and other things. He says, “I’m going to say a word most of you probably haven’t heard: synergy...” We all glance at each other while he explains. Then he talks about why ducks fly in a v-formation and we the glances become more pronounced.

He went through a half-dozen of those sort of things, all spoken at one point or another in sacrament meetings of half the people there, and the other half knew them all anyway.

We got a good chuckle out of it, and finally someone stopped him and said, “Tell us about the team Coach!”

He relaxed a lot there and it was a good session with him, but we decided next time not to ask them to talk about motivational things.

To his credit he had gone to a ton of work on his packet and stuff.


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[UtahsMrSports]

Question: Was this the worst road trip in the history of the Larry era?

I would argue 2011-2012 oregon swing. We lost to OSU by 10 and Oregon by 46. That was the infamous game where Oregon got out to a 34-2 lead.

If we are throwing out Larry's first year, I would argue its the trip to the Bay Area the next year where we got rocked by 18 both games. This most recent one is the worst since then that I can find.

[LA Ute]

After his first year we asked Kodiak to speak to the Alumni Association. When the coaches speak it is always the most popular. He asked us what we wanted him to speak about and we told him whatever he’d like but maybe something motivational, info on the team, etc.

So he shows up with a bankers box full of copies he made to hand out with quotes and other things. He says, “I’m going to say a word most of you probably haven’t heard: synergy...” We all glance at each other while he explains. Then he talks about why ducks fly in a v-formation and we the glances become more pronounced.

He went through a half-dozen of those sort of things, all spoken at one point or another in sacrament meetings of half the people there, and the other half knew them all anyway.

We got a good chuckle out of it, and finally someone stopped him and said, “Tell us about the team Coach!”

He relaxed a lot there and it was a good session with him, but we decided next time not to ask them to talk about motivational things.

To his credit he had gone to a ton of work on his packet and stuff.


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Synergy. Wow. What a concept. Why wasn't I told about it? How long has this secret been kept from me?

[Rocker Ute]

Synergy. Wow. What a concept. Why wasn't I told about it? How long has this secret been kept from me?

You see, with synergy you combine two things and get MORE than the sum of its parts...

Did you know that if you turn up the heat slowly a frog won’t jump out of the water until you boil him?




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[DrumNFeather]

As of today, Utah comes in with an RPI of 50 and UCLA with an RPI of 47. USC sitting at 37 with their win last night.

[Mormon Red Death]

Everyone playing??

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[justaute]

Off the topic a bit....parking at/near Hunty. Where should I park or what are the ideal options? It's been a while since I last drove up to Hunty. Thanks.

[LA Ute]

Off the topic a bit....parking at/near Hunty. Where should I park or what are the ideal options? It's been a while since I last drove up to Hunty. Thanks.

I've never done it but I understand lots of people park at the stadium west lot and jump on Trax up to the Huntsman. I hear that makes getting out after the game a little easier.

[U-Ute]

I've never done it but I understand lots of people park at the stadium west lot and jump on Trax up to the Huntsman. I hear that makes getting out after the game a little easier.

This is a great option.

[justaute]

Thanks much, LAU. I'll give that a shot.

[UtahsMrSports]

Thanks much, LAU. I'll give that a shot.

If that is full and you are early enough, sometimes you can slip into the LDS institute lot across the street. Sometimes they have that guarded.

[UtahsMrSports]

Everyone playing??

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Sounds like Jayce will play, but Sed will not.

[sancho]

Like before, everyone who gets minutes for UCLA (except Smith) can shoot the 3. They are all in the 33-43% range, with Holiday and Goloman the most dangerous. Welch is averaging a double double.

[concerned]

Parker listrd on the board as the starter

[DrumNFeather]

Dave playing with attitude right now.

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[Mormon Red Death]

I like the box and 1 on Holliday with pvd

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[Mormon Red Death]

Caldwell could be pretty good if he wasn't such a turnover machine

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[DrumNFeather]

47-40 Utes at the half. Need to cleanup the defensive rebounding...they are killing us on second chance opportunities.

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[DrumNFeather]

Caldwell could be pretty good if he wasn't such a turnover machine

Sent from my SM-G930T using TapatalkHe's really struggling defensively against #4. Can't stay in front of him at all.

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[sancho]

47-40 Utes at the half. Need to cleanup the defensive rebounding...they are killing us on second chance opportunities.


And both teams hitting from outside. First team to go cold loses.

[sancho]

Bibbins with 7 assists already.

[Mormon Red Death]

No foul there for Tillman?

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[sancho]

No foul there for Tillman?


That was so bad. So clear.

[LA Ute]

We have been in one of our dry spells when we can’t buy a basket.

[LA Ute]

Collette!


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[LA Ute]

Getting close to
Crunch time now.


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[sancho]

We look dead on offense. Need some energy.

[Mormon Red Death]

Mark Eaton looks like a giant Kenny Rodgers

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[sancho]

What a game.

Parker Van Dyke!

Collette perfect from the field.

Bibbins amazing. Bealer with the clutch FTs.

Such a relief. The dream lives on.

[sancho]

We basically played 6 guys tonight.

Seeley, Johnson, and Caldwell each had a few minutes, but it was mostly the starters plus Tillman.

Saturday's game is early, and USC has an extra day of rest. I hope Barefield is back.

[hostile]

We basically played 6 guys tonight.

Seeley, Johnson, and Caldwell each had a few minutes, but it was mostly the starters plus Tillman.

Saturday's game is early, and USC has an extra day of rest. I hope Barefield is back.
Barefield looked like he was moving pretty slow and deliberate getting up and down during time outs. Hope he can play but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t.

[Solon]

We basically played 6 guys tonight.

Seeley, Johnson, and Caldwell each had a few minutes, but it was mostly the starters plus Tillman.

Saturday's game is early, and USC has an extra day of rest. I hope Barefield is back.

I'm not second-guessing a nice win, but I am wondering if Jayce could have helped with the rebounding.
This team has turned into a fun team to watch.

[sancho]

I'm not second-guessing a nice win, but I am wondering if Jayce could have helped with the rebounding.
This team has turned into a fun team to watch.

Yeah, but how do you take Collette out when he's killing like he was?

[UTEopia]

Yeah, but how do you take Collette out when he's killing like he was?

Great win. Disappointing crowd. 7:00 pm start. No competition from Jazz.

[LA Ute]

Great win. Disappointing crowd. 7:00 pm start. No competition from Jazz.

Surprised at the crowd. This game mattered.


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[DrumNFeather]

RPI jumped to 40 with that win...UCLA's is 50, so we're hanging on just barely to a top 50 win there.

[LA Ute]

Highlights. Fun to watch:


https://youtu.be/8KAAmwgHEU4

[justaute]

Went to the game last night. Exciting and fun. Very happy to see PVD get his break-out performance.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Highlights. Fun to watch:


https://youtu.be/8KAAmwgHEU4

This is great too. Especially when Van Dyke gets into the locker room.

966911285001560064


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Tough discovery after a good win.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/c97690c35154eb603b5e78f3a4bf18e0.jpg


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[Diehard Ute]

Tough discovery after a good win.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/c97690c35154eb603b5e78f3a4bf18e0.jpg


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Ok. Pet peeve time. They weren’t robbed

Media loves to call everything a robbery cause it sounds so much more dramatic. But it’s not even close to accurate. It’s a burglary.


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[chrisrenrut]

This is great too. Especially when Van Dyke gets into the locker room.

966911285001560064


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LOL! That is awesome. Looks like they startled PVD pretty good.

[sancho]

Fill in the blank:

PVD's shot was the biggest shot in Utah basketball since __________________.

[UtahsMrSports]

Fill in the blank:

PVD's shot was the biggest shot in Utah basketball since __________________.

Right off the top of my head, I look at Brandon Taylor breaking Gabe York's ankles and then bagging a three to close the AZ game in 2016, and JD with the three at the horn to send the game to OT against Cal in the 2013 Pac-12 tournament.

[Mormon Red Death]

Fill in the blank:

PVD's shot was the biggest shot in Utah basketball since __________________. Bonham 2 years ago in Vegas to beat cal

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[chrisrenrut]

Bonham 2 years ago in Vegas to beat cal

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This is the first one that came to my mind.

[Old Standing ute]

I'm not second-guessing a nice win, but I am wondering if Jayce could have helped with the rebounding.
This team has turned into a fun team to watch.

Did he re-injure his foot during the game?

[concerned]

Did he re-injure his foot during the game?

I am guessing he did. They had Tillman playing the low post when Collette went out for a couple of minutes at about the 5 minute mark in the game.

[DrumNFeather]

I am guessing he did. They had Tillman playing the low post when Collette went out for a couple of minutes at about the 5 minute mark in the game.Saving Jokl for the post-season. Smart!

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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Kind of surprised to see this.

967443911827324929


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[UtahsMrSports]

No sedrick today. Jayce is warming up though.

[Mormon Red Death]

Pac12 refs are so bad

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[LA Ute]

I hope USC cools off a bit.


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[Diehard Ute]

Not sure why Metu can make gestures towards the bench and do push-ups in front of our bench and the refs don’t seem to care. Maybe he’s funneling them some of his loan money?


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[Solon]

Not sure why Metu can make gestures towards the bench and do push-ups in front of our bench and the refs don’t seem to care. Maybe he’s funneling them some of his loan money?


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Well, a number of interviews has convinced Lynn Swann that Metu is clean.

[Diehard Ute]

Well, a number of interviews has convinced Lynn Swann that Metu is clean.

Well I’m glad he showers


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[LA Ute]

We do seem to be struggling with their quickness.


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Finally some life and aggressiveness.


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[Diehard Ute]

Metu may be the most protected player in the country


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[LA Ute]

Metu may be the most protected player in the country


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But his sweet, endearing attitude and personality make that easier to take.

[Mormon Red Death]

The refs are so ridiculous

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[LA Ute]

We are just outmanned today. Maybe eight times out of 10 we would be outmanned against this team.


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[Diehard Ute]

We are just outmanned today. Maybe eight times out of 10 we would be outmanned against this team.


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You’re right we’ve been playing 5 on 8 all game


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[DrumNFeather]

Safe to say that two of our worst efforts were against these guys.

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[Mormon Red Death]

I guess they figure they are going to have vacate the win anyways so might as well play everybody

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[LA Ute]

You’re right we’ve been playing 5 on 8 all game


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Lol

[Solon]

Lol
28-30 points a half isn’t going to get it done.

[DrumNFeather]

Well that was a tough one...no other way to slice it. USC's athleticism was a real problem for us all day long. We weren't hitting our shots, boxing out on defense, closing out on threes, and they took advantage at every turn. Feels like USC got in our guys' heads early an often. Collette has been angling for the intentional foul he got since at least Thursday, maybe longer. Bibbins seemed to get frustrated easily (with good reason), and we just didn't get a whole lot from anyone else. I do hope that Larry can pick up a nice fine for criticizing the refs after this one. They deserve it. #YouKnowThatBobby.

Hopefully the guys can rest up and get ready for CU and then on to Vegas. We desperately need to get healthy. We still have the inside track on the #4 seed, and if UCLA loses to CU and USC, the 3 seed is still a possibility.

[Old Standing ute]

Metu may be the most protected player in the country


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He did a great pantomime of throwing money to the MUSS after the game.

If Ayton got $100,000, then what did Metu cost?

the $2,000 was just agent money---not what Enfield & Bland had to pay.

Plus how does Kuz get $7,500 & Metu only $2,000.?????????????

[redastheycome]

Well that was a tough one...no other way to slice it. USC's athleticism was a real problem for us all day long. We weren't hitting our shots, boxing out on defense, closing out on threes, and they took advantage at every turn. Feels like USC got in our guys' heads early an often. Collette has been angling for the intentional foul he got since at least Thursday, maybe longer. Bibbins seemed to get frustrated easily (with good reason), and we just didn't get a whole lot from anyone else. I do hope that Larry can pick up a nice fine for criticizing the refs after this one. They deserve it. #YouKnowThatBobby.

Hopefully the guys can rest up and get ready for CU and then on to Vegas. We desperately need to get healthy. We still have the inside track on the #4 seed, and if UCLA loses to CU and USC, the 3 seed is still a possibility.

Yup. Having Barefield out really, really hurt as well. Bibbins played the full 40 against UCLA, and with no Sed he was forced to basically do the same (well, until he picked up his 4th), all in a game where the refs were essentially letting SC use hockey-style body checks on defense. Throw that in with the short turnaround (thanks a bunch, scheduling algorithms), an off-night shooting (we were due for one of those) and the fact that Jayce didn't look right, you've got rough day.

Bad enough to lose out on the chance for an at-large. Worse to do so at the hands of that whiny little weasel Enfield. At least it was a fun ride these last few weeks - whatever the outcome, Larry got these guys to play at or close to the ceiling their talent and experience level would allow, and that's got to be worth something.

[Diehard Ute]

He did a great pantomime of throwing money to the MUSS after the game.

If Ayton got $100,000, then what did Metu cost?

the $2,000 was just agent money---not what Enfield & Bland had to pay.

Plus how does Kuz get $7,500 & Metu only $2,000.?????????????

He did that during the game.

How his hand gestures, push-ups etc didn’t get an unsportsmanlike tech is beyond me


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[SeattleUte]

I commend Krystkowiak for being 10-7 essentially with a church ball team (a pickle he has himself to blame for), but setbacks such as we saw today after being given substantial false hope seem to be a hallmark of his program.

[Mormon Red Death]

I commend Krystkowiak for being 10-7 essentially with a church ball team (a pickle he has himself to blame for), but setbacks such as we saw today after being given substantial false hope seem to be a hallmark of his program.Come on you can't just show up when they lose. This team hasnt played a game where someone wasn't hurt. They also only played the 3 worst teams in the conference 4 times. Imagine where we'd be if instead of playin in socal we went to nocal and instead of playing the az schools at home we got oregons.

Yes they played terribly today. But give this team more credit than false hope.

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[LA Ute]

I commend Krystkowiak for being 10-7 essentially with a church ball team (a pickle he has himself to blame for), but setbacks such as we saw today after being given substantial false hope seem to be a hallmark of his program.

This is just adorable.