Hirings and Firings

[Two Utes]

On Stallings at Pitt and Scott Barnes:

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/08/pittsburgh-kevin-stallings-fired-buyout-millions-scott-barnes-search-firm/


In my opinion he really screwed Utah State going out the door in similar fashion. He's a really shitty AD who got really lucky with the hire of Gary Anderson.

Every AD has warts but we really ought to appreciate the job Hill has done on the Hill.

[DrumNFeather]

Folks on Twitter are already campaigning for Pitt to get Tom Creen, which would be interesting.

[LA Ute]

In my opinion he really screwed Utah State going out the door in similar fashion. He's a really shitty AD who got really lucky with the hire of Gary Anderson.

Every AD has warts but we really ought to appreciate the job Hill has done on the Hill.

Summon Seattle Ute!

[mUUser]

........
Every AD has warts but we really ought to appreciate the job Hill has done on the Hill.

Successive hirings of Mac, Urban and KW. Inclusion in Pac 12. Majerus & Krystko. Remain relatively scandal free.

He has two big warts in Giac & Boylen, otherwise he's a gold standard among AD's.

An on campus baseball field would be the cherry on top of his career.

[concerned]

Successive hirings of Mac, Urban and KW. Inclusion in Pac 12. Majerus & Krystko. Remain relatively scandal free.

He has two big warts in Giac & Boylen, otherwise he's a gold standard among AD's.

An on campus baseball field would be the cherry on top of his career.

SoCalPat will say he has a major wart re swimgate.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Hill also stayed out of the way of a great gymnastics program, and hired outstanding women's basketball and softball coaches.

[Mormon Red Death]

Summon Seattle Ute!And when he gets here tell him to pay the $100 he owes me

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[DrumNFeather]

And when he gets here tell him to pay the $100 he owes me

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If we lose to Oregon tonight, he'll show up.

[mUUser]

SoCalPat will say he has a major wart re swimgate.


Well, hard to argue otherwise, I suppose. Also, some might suggest he gave too much leash to the way Majerus ran the basketball program. They'd have some solid arguments there as well. But, on the whole of a 30 year career, I think he's done remarkably well.

[concerned]

Well, hard to argue otherwise, I suppose. Also, some might suggest he gave too much leash to the way Majerus ran the basketball program. They'd have some solid arguments there as well. But, on the whole of a 30 year career, I think he's done remarkably well.

Agreed. And we havent really mentioned all the facilities upgrades that came with Pac 12 membership, and before (indoor football center).

[Scorcho]

Agreed. And we havent really mentioned all the facilities upgrades that came with Pac 12 membership, and before (indoor football center).

I shudder when I think about Utah athletics prior to Hill. Basketball and gymnastics were in great shape, but the rest were in shambles. Utah athletics were on par with New Mexico/UNLV/Wyoming and maybe not as good.

[Rocker Ute]

All of these facts be damned! Anybody with a pulse could have done what Hill has done and he hardly deserves credit for any hire or facility upgrade. He does however deserve direct criticism and is solely responsible for any bad hire, with his one positive attribute being he is simply extraordinarily lucky.

(I'm just putting this as a placeholder for SU).

[Sullyute]

All of these facts be damned! Anybody with a pulse could have done what Hill has done and he hardly deserves credit for any hire or facility upgrade. He does however deserve direct criticism and is solely responsible for any bad hire, with his one positive attribute being he is simply extraordinarily lucky.

(I'm just putting this as a placeholder for SU).

:applause:

[DrumNFeather]

Kevin Ollie being fired by UCONN with cause: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22712868/uconn-huskies-parts-ways-head-coach-kevin-ollie-citing-just-cause

[concerned]

Kevin Ollie being fired by UCONN with cause: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22712868/uconn-huskies-parts-ways-head-coach-kevin-ollie-citing-just-cause


For cause? Ollie must not have Hurley's contract.

[DrumNFeather]

Georgia also prepared to part ways with Mark Fox, multiple sources reporting on ESPN.

[SoCalPat]

SoCalPat will say he has a major wart re swimgate.

Goes without saying. He's also bungled contracts with both Kyle and Larry as of late. But no AD goes 30 years at the same school without some mistakes. Hill has had a solid B+/A- career at Utah.

[DrumNFeather]

Mentioned in another thread, but Duryea officially out at USU.

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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Mentioned in another thread, but Duryea officially out at USU.

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Better tell Utah State players to learn from Collette. It’s best to transfer to Utah now, not wait until you lose half of a season.


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[DrumNFeather]

Georgia also prepared to part ways with Mark Fox, multiple sources reporting on ESPN.

I wonder if USU would be a good fit for Fox. He had previously had success at Nevada before jumping to Georgia.

Also, saw on the Twitter that Slocum might be a candidate at CSU.

[UBlender]

Better tell Utah State players to learn from Collette. It’s best to transfer to Utah now, not wait until you lose half of a season.


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I always maintained that Utah should have offered McEwen out of high school and his play has proven me right (at least in my opinion). So if he felt like moving on now I would not be opposed. Also, if he is able to hurry up and finish his degree this summer so he can be eligible next season....

[sancho]

I always maintained that Utah should have offered McEwen out of high school and his play has proven me right (at least in my opinion). So if he felt like moving on now I would not be opposed. Also, if he is able to hurry up and finish his degree this summer so he can be eligible next season....

We need a PG! It felt good to completely shut that guy down when we played this season. He's not quite on the same level as Childs when it comes to recruiting misses.

[DrumNFeather]

Lorenzo Romar to Pepperdine.

[LA Ute]

Lorenzo Romar to Pepperdine.


Why would any D1 program hire him?

[DrumNFeather]

Why would any D1 program hire him?

I think that is where he started.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Why would any D1 program hire him?

This seems pretty accurate.

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[LA Ute]

This seems pretty accurate.

973244690257666049

Yeah, makes sense to me.

[DrumNFeather]

Tubby Smith likely out at Memphis so that they can hire former player and current high school coach Penny Hardaway.

[Rocker Ute]

...If he leaves, fine. I’ll hope that Hill gets as lucky as he’s been sometimes in the past when he spun that coaching hire roulette wheel...


All of these facts be damned! Anybody with a pulse could have done what Hill has done and he hardly deserves credit for any hire or facility upgrade. He does however deserve direct criticism and is solely responsible for any bad hire, with his one positive attribute being he is simply extraordinarily lucky.

(I'm just putting this as a placeholder for SU).

Swish!


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[DrumNFeather]

Dan Hurley officially hired at UCONN.

La Salle has fired its coach. Tim Legler, who went there, has emerged as a candidate for the job. Why is this noteworthy? Well, WSU opened against an A-10 opponent in the Wooden Classic last year, so we may get La Salle!

[Two Utes]

Dan Hurley officially hired at UCONN.

La Salle has fired its coach. Tim Legler, who went there, has emerged as a candidate for the job. Why is this noteworthy? Well, WSU opened against an A-10 opponent in the Wooden Classic last year, so we may get La Salle!

Rumors swirling that front runner for Utah State job is Craig Smith at South Dakota. I have met him. Home run hire by the Aggies in my opinion.

[DrumNFeather]

Jeff Capel to Pittsburgh.

[chrisrenrut]

Ernie Kent out at Wazzu.

[SeattleUte]

I want this guy.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25953759/nate-oats-buffalo-want-do-more-ruin-your-bracket-again

[LA Ute]

I want this guy.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25953759/nate-oats-buffalo-want-do-more-ruin-your-bracket-again

Here you go:

mharlan@utah.edu

[DrumNFeather]

I want this guy.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25953759/nate-oats-buffalo-want-do-more-ruin-your-bracket-again

It will only cost you a cool 12.75 million to get rid of the current guy.

[sancho]

I want this guy.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25953759/nate-oats-buffalo-want-do-more-ruin-your-bracket-again

He seems to be the hot mid-major. But there will always be hot mid majors for schools like Utah to gamble on. The Utes will improve next season, and then, with Tillman a senior, Allen a junior, and Rylan a sophomore, Utah will make the tournament with a good seed in 2021. At that point, Harlan will extend Larry.

Who is UCLA going to hire? Who is even on the list?

I would offer Bennett. I would offer Dana Altman. Maybe Greg Marshall. Maybe Fred Hoiberg. Of course Calipari and Few just to be sure.

All of those guys probably turn UCLA down. Then what? All the big name assistants have been taken the past few seasons. Who's a successful P5 who could take a step up? Buzz Williams? Chris Beard? Matt Painter? After that, UCLA would have to reach for a mid major coach who has not had sustained success or an NBA coach/assistant.

[SeattleUte]

It will only cost you a cool 12.75 million to get rid of the current guy.

Has anyone on message boards or the sports pages of the Tribune or Deseret News actually read this contract? Look, whatever the buy out is, like LK’s salary it woudn’t be paid by the university anyway.

[sancho]

Has anyone on message boards or the sports pages of the Tribune or Deseret News actually read this contract? Look, whatever the buy out is, like LK’s salary it woudn’t be paid by the university anyway.

I have not because I know what you know - we aren't keeping him because of a buyout. If it were his time to go, we'd can him.

[UTEopia]

Scott Van Pelt did an interesting piece on Tom Izzo and his yelling at one of his freshmen players that apparently garnered attention. He pointed out that Izzo is a tough love coach, who pushes his players, but wins with a bunch of 3 and 4 year players and does not have a problem with transfers. I am not sure the transfer problem is as much on LK as it is on the makeup of the staff. I used to run into Juddy regularly. We were friends growing up and he moved into my parents LDS Ward when he returned to SLC - still lives there I think. Anyway, Juddy frequently said that much of what he and Donnie did was love up the kids because Rick was so brutal. I don't think Tommy is that guy. Don't know about DeMarlo. Anyway, this year and the transfers out will tell me whether I am ready to move on from Larry.

[LA Ute]

Scott Van Pelt did an interesting piece on Tom Izzo and his yelling at one of his freshmen players that apparently garnered attention. He pointed out that Izzo is a tough love coach, who pushes his players, but wins with a bunch of 3 and 4 year players and does not have a problem with transfers. I am not sure the transfer problem is as much on LK as it is on the makeup of the staff. I used to run into Juddy regularly. We were friends growing up and he moved into my parents LDS Ward when he returned to SLC - still lives there I think. Anyway, Juddy frequently said that much of what he and Donnie did was love up the kids because Rick was so brutal. I don't think Tommy is that guy. Don't know about DeMarlo. Anyway, this year and the transfers out will tell me whether I am ready to move on from Larry.

Very interesting. It does give me pause that his staff is so stable, perhaps too stable. Are they stale, not stable? Why are they not getting upgraded jobs with other programs?

[sancho]

Scott Van Pelt did an interesting piece on Tom Izzo and his yelling at one of his freshmen players that apparently garnered attention. He pointed out that Izzo is a tough love coach, who pushes his players, but wins with a bunch of 3 and 4 year players and does not have a problem with transfers.

One week ago, everyone was showing a picture of Izzo crying with his injured forward and talking about how caring Izzo is. Now, he's getting blasted for yelling at players.



I am not sure the transfer problem is as much on LK as it is on the makeup of the staff.

The "transfer problem"? Do we have more transfers than the average team? How many transfers were people we wish we'd kept?

I'm not sure we need someone to "love up" our players, unless Larry is much harsher in practice than in games. Larry almost never yells at his guys. In our own conference this season, I've seen Sean Miller and Mike Hopkins absolutely blast their players in ways Larry never has.

[UTEopia]

The "transfer problem"? Do we have more transfers than the average team? How many transfers were people we wish we'd kept?


I would have wanted Chapman, Mawein, Daniels, Doutrive for sure. Chris Seeley and Isaiah Wright probably. As for the guys like Pop and Zamorra, I would rather have had their scholies go to guys who can play at PAC 12 level.

[sancho]

I would have wanted Chapman, Mawein, Daniels, Doutrive for sure. Chris Seeley and Isaiah Wright probably. As for the guys like Pop and Zamorra, I would rather have had their scholies go to guys who can play at PAC 12 level.

I like all those guys, too. I guess what I'm saying is that we haven't suffered much because of transfers. Right now, Mawien is the biggest loss we've had in terms of impact, and that impact has not been all that much. Hendrix could take the title from Mawien. We'll see. Hendrix really should have stayed.

[UTEopia]

I like all those guys, too. I guess what I'm saying is that we haven't suffered much because of transfers. Right now, Mawien is the biggest loss we've had in terms of impact, and that impact has not been all that much. Hendrix could take the title from Mawien. We'll see. Hendrix really should have stayed.

I disagree. We have been in rebuild mold every year since Loveridge, Taylor and Tucker graduated. We will be in rebuild mold again next year. The reason is we lose and bring in 5 or 6 new guys every year.

[sancho]

I disagree. We have been in rebuild mold every year since Loveridge, Taylor and Tucker graduated. We will be in rebuild mold again next year. The reason is we lose and bring in 5 or 6 new guys every year.

I think that's a good point. Individually, none of those transfers were huge losses, but, the lack of continuity/cohesion may be hurting us. It looks like 4 of our starters next season are returning players, so that's nice.

I don't really know how many of the four main transfers could have stayed. Chapman wanted out. Daniels, by all accounts, was hurting the team. Mawien, I believe, could have stayed if we wanted him to. I really don't know about Hendrix - it seems like he wanted out?

As for Zamora/Popoola, it sounds like you are okay with letting that type of player go in exchange for a chance at something better. When he left, we all thought Mawien was in that same category. Not one word of lament here or anywhere else. His modest success with KState is easily the most surprising story of any of our transfers.

[chrisrenrut]

King out at Cal. No big surprise there

[UTEopia]

I think that's a good point. Individually, none of those transfers were huge losses, but, the lack of continuity/cohesion may be hurting us. It looks like 4 of our starters next season are returning players, so that's nice.

I don't really know how many of the four main transfers could have stayed. Chapman wanted out. Daniels, by all accounts, was hurting the team. Mawien, I believe, could have stayed if we wanted him to. I really don't know about Hendrix - it seems like he wanted out?

As for Zamora/Popoola, it sounds like you are okay with letting that type of player go in exchange for a chance at something better. When he left, we all thought Mawien was in that same category. Not one word of lament here or anywhere else. His modest success with KState is easily the most surprising story of any of our transfers.

I'm for not recruiting the Zamora/Popoola guys, but when you have transfers out, you have signings just to have bodies. As for the others, you have to work with the guys you sign.

[sancho]

I'm for not recruiting the Zamora/Popoola guys, but when you have transfers out, you have signings just to have bodies. As for the others, you have to work with the guys you sign.

Sure, but, just for the sake of argument, let's suppose that at some point again in the future, we end up giving a scholarship to someone who turns out to not be amazing. I don't think it's too crazy to explain to that player that he will probably not get any playing time here, let him transfer, and take a flier on someone new.

We have had some very good transfers, so you can't say that we always just fill to have bodies. And we certainly do work with the guys we sign, but sometimes those guys want to go somewhere else. If this really has been a problem for us, it's been a small problem.

[Scorcho]

Sure, but, just for the sake of argument, let's suppose that at some point again in the future, we end up giving a scholarship to someone who turns out to not be amazing. I don't think it's too crazy to explain to that player that he will probably not get any playing time here, let him transfer, and take a flier on someone new.

We have had some very good transfers, so you can't say that we always just fill to have bodies. And we certainly do work with the guys we sign, but sometimes those guys want to go somewhere else. If this really has been a problem for us, it's been a small problem.

Damn, how good is Dana Altman, how good would this team have been with a healthy Bol(x2)? And he’s got an #11 ranked class coming in next year. Clearly Oregon = the best basketball program in the conference currently. Elite 8 in 2016, final four 2017 and at least a sweet sixteen in 2019. That's a Majerus type run.


Supposing Miller stays at Arizona with his #1 ranked recruiting class, UCLA picks up a good to above avg. coach, and UW continues to improve this is a good hoops league. Add in a 2nd tier with ASU, USC and Utah and this is a league that should routinely get at least 4 into the dance every year.

[sancho]

Damn, how good is Dana Altman, how good would this team have been with a healthy Bol(x2)? And he’s got an #11 ranked class coming in next year. Clearly Oregon = the best basketball program in the conference currently. Elite 8 in 2016, final four 2017 and at least a sweet sixteen in 2019. That's a Majerus type run.


Supposing Miller stays at Arizona with his #1 ranked recruiting class, UCLA picks up a good to above avg. coach, and UW continues to improve this is a good hoops league. Add in a 2nd tier with ASU, USC and Utah and this is a league that should routinely get at least 4 into the dance every year.

Yeah, that might be too good though. If UW, Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, USC, and ASU are all good, there won't be much room for Utah to become a tournament team.

I do think UCLA should at least Altman if he's interested.

[UTEopia]

Sure, but, just for the sake of argument, let's suppose that at some point again in the future, we end up giving a scholarship to someone who turns out to not be amazing. I don't think it's too crazy to explain to that player that he will probably not get any playing time here, let him transfer, and take a flier on someone new.

We have had some very good transfers, so you can't say that we always just fill to have bodies. And we certainly do work with the guys we sign, but sometimes those guys want to go somewhere else. If this really has been a problem for us, it's been a small problem.

I think you and I just disagree on this. I'm not really looking forward to the 4th rebuilding season in a row.

[sancho]

I'm not really looking forward to the 4th rebuilding season in a row.

Well, I can agree with that!

[Scorcho]

Well, I can agree with that!

sounds like Dave Rose is stepping down, glad Utah didn't lure him away from BYU a few years back.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46518452/byus-dave-rose-to-hold-press-conference-amid-rumors-hes-stepping-down

[DrumNFeather]

sounds like Dave Rose is stepping down, glad Utah didn't lure him away from BYU a few years back.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46518452/byus-dave-rose-to-hold-press-conference-amid-rumors-hes-stepping-down

Early names to replace him are Pope at UVU, Peery at Portland State, and Alex Jensen.

[concerned]

sounds like Dave Rose is stepping down, glad Utah didn't lure him away from BYU a few years back.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46518452/byus-dave-rose-to-hold-press-conference-amid-rumors-hes-stepping-down

"stepping down" is a euphamism

[sancho]

Early names to replace him are Pope at UVU, Peery at Portland State, and Alex Jensen.

I think it's Pope, and I think it's already been worked out. Just my guess. AJ is way too beardy for Provo. I've seen Pope's name as an up and comer.

[Scorcho]

Early names to replace him are Pope at UVU, Peery at Portland State, and Alex Jensen.

which local news outlet will come up with the most cheesy cringe-worthy headline if its Pope?

[sancho]

sounds like Dave Rose is stepping down, glad Utah didn't lure him away from BYU a few years back.


I feel bad for him. BYU threw the basketball program under a bus with independence. Rose had opportunities to leave, but the Y pressed him to stay. He gradually lost recruiting power, and losing games naturally followed.

May his replacement be fired in 3 years!

[DrumNFeather]

Mike Anderson out at Arkansas and Tim Miles out at Nebraska.

[concerned]

Mike Anderson out at Arkansas and Tim Miles out at Nebraska.

Anticipating that Miles would be let go in favor of Hoiberg, Wilner or someobdy wrote an article last week saying that WSU should hire him.

[sancho]

Anticipating that Miles would be let go in favor of Hoiberg, Wilner or someobdy wrote an article last week saying that WSU should hire him.

I saw that too. I can't understand why Hoiberg would go to Nebraska. Surely there are better offers out there for him? Maybe he's from there.

[sancho]

Anticipating that Miles would be let go in favor of Hoiberg, Wilner or someobdy wrote an article last week saying that WSU should hire him.

Internet is saying that Wazzu will hire the guy at San Francisco. The good news for us is that if WSU gets someone good, he will be gone within a few years.

[LA Ute]

Early names to replace him are Pope at UVU, Peery at Portland State, and Alex Jensen.

Trivia: Pope’s wife is Lynn Archibald’s daughter.

[concerned]

A friend on the AAU circuit said he doubts Pope wants the job. His goal is to get to the ACC or SEC, and taking the BYU job does not advance that, and likely sets it back. Calipari has been promoting Pope for various jobs back east. The Qualtrics guy apparently is throwing a lot of money into this, so who knows.

[sancho]

A friend on the AAU circuit said he doubts Pope wants the job. His goal is to get to the ACC or SEC, and taking the BYU job does not advance that, and likely sets it back. Calipari has been promoting Pope for various jobs back east. The Qualtrics guy apparently is throwing a lot of money into this, so who knows.

What is qualtrics?

I still think it will be Pope. You can't get to the ACC directly from UVU. Unless he has other offers, Pope will take it as a stepping stone.

[redastheycome]

Survey software company based in Utah Co. (can't remember if it's in Provo exactly or one of the other towns, don't care enough to look it up).


What is qualtrics?

[Diehard Ute]

What is qualtrics?

I still think it will be Pope. You can't get to the ACC directly from UVU. Unless he has other offers, Pope will take it as a stepping stone.

Qualtrics is a tech company from Utah county. The founder and CEO recently sold it for $8 Billion

Their users conference in Salt Lake earlier this year featured Barak Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Ashton Kutcher, Richard Branson and many others.


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[concerned]

he is also the guy who bought the cancer patch on the Jazz jerseys and appears with the players in the "5 for 5" (or whatever they are) promo spots during the Jazz games.

[sancho]

So you're saying BYU has a big time booster who will open his wallet for this hire? I think they get Pope either way, but we'll see. Even with money, they are fairly limited in that there aren't many LDS options.

[DrumNFeather]

Buffalo Coach Nate Oats to Alabama.

[DrumNFeather]

SF coach Kyle Smith's deal at WSU is reportedly for 6 years, so he'll be given every opportunity to rebuild that program. Then again, if he does he'll probably be snagged by someone else.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

No discussion about UNLV's new coach turnover?! Marvin Menzies was fired and replaced with T.J. Otzelberger, who had been the head coach for the South Dakota State Jackrabbits. I'm old enough to remember that UNLV used to be the proudest basketball program in the state.

[Applejack]

No discussion about UNLV's new coach turnover?! Marvin Menzies was fired and replaced with T.J. Otzelberger, who had been the head coach for the South Dakota State Jackrabbits. I'm old enough to remember that UNLV used to be the proudest basketball program in the state.

Kudos to UNLV for hiring two guys (I assume) with names that sound like made-up names for witness protection!

[DrumNFeather]

Former Nevada and Georgia coach Mark Fox emerging as the guy at Cal.

[sancho]

Former Nevada and Georgia coach Mark Fox emerging as the guy at Cal.

Really? That doesn't exactly fill me with fear. (famous last words, I know)

[LA Ute]

Really? That doesn't exactly fill me with fear. (famous last words, I know)

Stop providing Cal with bulletin board material!

[sancho]

I will say for the 50th time that we should do this with Kyle:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26417804/kentucky-offers-calipari-life-deal

[Scorcho]

I will say for the 50th time that we should do this with Kyle:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26417804/kentucky-offers-calipari-life-deal

interesting blurb about UCLA in there (Calipari for 8 mill per), sounds like they are trying to hit a home run with this next hire.

[sancho]

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[LA Ute]

I will say for the 50th time that we should do this with Kyle:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26417804/kentucky-offers-calipari-life-deal

I think this is probably a good idea. He’s going to be here as long as he wants anyway, and it would quiet down those who grumble about him, like me.

[sancho]

I think this is probably a good idea. He’s going to be here as long as he wants anyway, and it would quiet down those who grumble about him, like me.

It's symbolic, and it makes positive news. It can only be good for recruiting. And it's a great gesture to someone who has been good to us.

[sancho]

Jamie Dixon to UCLA appears to be official. Rather underwhelming considering the names that were being thrown around. I assume UCLA at least called Chris Beard and Tony Bennett to gauge interest. Texas A&M just hired a far more accomplished coach than UCLA. This is UCLA's second consecutive meh hire as well.

Dixon is solid like Alford was. Dixon was fine at Pitt and good at TCU. He might have great success at UCLA. It is, after all, one of the easiest places to win. All it will take is one great recruiting class and one great season for people to say "UCLA's back!" But this could also be another Alford experiment, and UCLA shouldn't have to do those.

[Scratch]

Jamie Dixon to UCLA appears to be official. Rather underwhelming considering the names that were being thrown around. I assume UCLA at least called Chris Beard and Tony Bennett to gauge interest. Texas A&M just hired a far more accomplished coach than UCLA. This is UCLA's second consecutive meh hire as well.

Dixon is solid like Alford was. Dixon was fine at Pitt and good at TCU. He might have great success at UCLA. It is, after all, one of the easiest places to win. All it will take is one great recruiting class and one great season for people to say "UCLA's back!" But this could also be another Alford experiment, and UCLA shouldn't have to do those.

I think this is a much better hire than that. Dixon was excellent at Pitt and has had success at TCU, which seemed nearly impossible before he was hired. It's not a grand slam, but it's a very good hire.

[chrisrenrut]

Jamie Dixon to UCLA appears to be official. Rather underwhelming considering the names that were being thrown around. I assume UCLA at least called Chris Beard and Tony Bennett to gauge interest. Texas A&M just hired a far more accomplished coach than UCLA. This is UCLA's second consecutive meh hire as well.

Dixon is solid like Alford was. Dixon was fine at Pitt and good at TCU. He might have great success at UCLA. It is, after all, one of the easiest places to win. All it will take is one great recruiting class and one great season for people to say "UCLA's back!" But this could also be another Alford experiment, and UCLA shouldn't have to do those.

Dixon's resume seems a little more advanced than Alford's was when he was hired. I remember when Alford was hired how it was pretty underwhelming for UCLA. He had only coached at a couple of small schools, Iowa, and New Mexico prior to UCLA. Dixon's experience and success in the Big East/ACC and Big 12 is a more impressive that some success in the MW.

Dixon took Pitt to the NCAA's 9 out of 10 years, and went to the Sweet 16 twice and Elite 8 once. His TCU success is mediocre, NCAA's once and NIT twice.

[sancho]

It's not a grand slam, but it's a very good hire.

Like I said, a solid hire. If UCLA is one of the top 5 programs in college basketball (as is often the claim with Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, and Duke), they should be able to hit home runs with their hires. The feel I'm getting from college basketball Twitter is "Eh, this might work. Could have been worse."

[LA Ute]

Like I said, a solid hire. If UCLA is one of the top 5 programs in college basketball (as is often the claim with Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, and Duke), they should be able to hit home runs with their hires.

They keep doing this, over and over. It’s puzzling. UCLA fans here are depressed, but they have become fatalistic about coaching hires.

[Scorcho]

They keep doing this, over and over. It’s puzzling. UCLA fans here are depressed, but they have become fatalistic about coaching hires.


Latest I've heard on Jamie Dixon: He's trying to negotiate his $8-million buyout down to $1 million. Barring that, UCLA will have to come up with the money. Have also been told that Mick Cronin is getting antsy and the next 24 hours could be critical to keeping him in the mix. https://twitter.com/latbbolch/status/1113487786357575680

[sancho]

They keep doing this, over and over. It’s puzzling. UCLA fans here are depressed, but they have become fatalistic about coaching hires.

UCLA reality check

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/04/04/ucla-basketball-gets-reality-check-failure-hire-elite-coach/3365640002/

[LA Ute]

From Jon Wilner's Hotline e-mail:

The UCLA search: What's another week, or month?



UCLA has been in the market for a basketball coach for 98 days.

For all the missteps the the Bruins have made and the criticism they've endured — for all the embarrassment the search has brought to the university — the goal remains attainable: Find the right coach.

Doesn’t matter if it takes 98 more days, they must get it right.

The Hotline has pondered three aspects of the search more than any others:

• No question is more fascinating than UCLA’s threshold for acceptable candidates on the twin fronts of NCAA compliance and personal conduct.

John Calipari has vacated two Final Fours. Jamie Dixon’s assistant at TCU was fired after being caught up in the FBI corruption case. The Bruins pursued both -- Dixon has not been implicated, to be fair -- yet some coaches reportedly didn’t clear the bar.

Without insight provided by those running the search, conclusions are difficult to draw. But it's riveting to watch a major search unfold in the era of exposed corruption and not detect a hint of selective morality.

If you're OK with vacated Final Fours, what aren't you OK with?

• The finances of the Calipari pursuit make little sense: Why would UCLA offer him what’s effectively a pay cut to move from Lexington to Westwood?

It makes such little sense, in fact, that I wonder if something went awry somewhere along the information flow.

• UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero, senior associate Josh Rebholz and search mover/shaker Casey Wasserman were surely aware of Dixon’s $8 million buyout before discussions turned serious; they had to anticipate the possibility that TCU would refuse to negotiate a lower amount.

All of which makes me wonder if the Bruins were prepared to handle the $8 million until something went wrong at the last minute.

Yet even then, the athletic department receives $11 million annually from Under Armour. Was that revenue source unavailable?

Was there no way to conjure what would amount to $1.6 million annually (if you spread that $8 million over a five-year contract)?

• I’m also curious about the timing of the search as it involves two coaches in the Final Four: Virginia’s Tony Bennett and Texas Tech’s Chris Beard.

Maybe the Bruins had reason to believe, through back channels, that neither coach would be interested, so they moved on Dixon last week.

But if they locked on Dixon simply because they wanted to wrap things up, before attempting a hard play for Bennett or Beard, well, that’s inexcusable. You’ve waited three months and aren’t willing to wait one more week?

Again, it's baffling -- so supremely baffling that, as with the Calipari offer and the Dixon buyout, you wonder if there's more to the story.

And yet, there’s precedent for fallback hires working out quite well, not only in the Pac-12 but in Los Angeles specifically.

Three or four years from now, we just might look back on the search and conclude the Bruins stumbled into a fabulous hire -- that the whiff on Dixon was the best thing that could have happened to them.

That doesn't make sense, but a nonsensical outcome actually makes perfect sense given the course of events over the past 98 days. -- Jon Wilner

[concerned]

Well, Rick Barnes is a pretty good hire, but he will be 65 in July. Not a long term solution.

[sancho]

I thought Cronin was the backup plan to Dixon. I guess that fell apart?

[NorthwestUteFan]

And now Rick Barnes is staying at Tennessee.

$5M isn't enough to bring a coach to UCLA.

Sent from my LG-LS777 using Tapatalk

[DrumNFeather]

Mick Cronin to UCLA official. He's going to have to stand on a ladder to shake Larry's hand at the end of the game.

[DrumNFeather]

Also, if Chris Mullin steps down at St. Johns, reports are that Bobby Hurley would be their top target. Good riddance if that happens.

[Scorcho]

white smoke billows out of the House that Porn built

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900065079/byu-expected-to-name-mark-pope-as-head-basketball-coach.html

[LA Ute]

white smoke billows out of the House that Porn built

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900065079/byu-expected-to-name-mark-pope-as-head-basketball-coach.html

We will now hear that Pope is the solution to all their problems, the greatest hire ever, and that the Final Four beckons.

[SeattleUte]

We will now hear that Pope is the solution to all their problems, the greatest hire ever, and that the Final Four beckons.

It is a very good hire. He'll do well there.

[concerned]

It is a very good hire. He'll do well there.

Not for long.

[LA Ute]

It is a very good hire. He'll do well there.

He can't do anything about the Honor Code or the other built-in limitations at BYU. His only hope is that the really good LDS players want to go there, and that there are enough of them to make a difference.

[concerned]

He can't do anything about the Honor Code or the other built-in limitations at BYU. His only hope is that the really good LDS players want to go there, and that there are enough of them to make a difference.


he can do something about getting them to play defense. That would be a big difference.

[LA Ute]

he can do something about getting them to play defense. That would be a big difference.

True. But you do need good athletes in order to play defense.

[sancho]

Not for long.

it's a risk for him. He wants the job as a stepping stone, but it's a dead end if he underperforms. And he reportedly has no talent there to work with. Still, BYU has certain built-in advantages that he can try to take advantage of. I hope he fails miserably!

[SeattleUte]

He can't do anything about the Honor Code or the other built-in limitations at BYU. His only hope is that the really good LDS players want to go there, and that there are enough of them to make a difference.

That's true, but they have made the right hire for working around those challenges. And they still have been whupping us even with those limitations and a bad coach. I think Pope will make BYU cool again for LDS kids and with just those and a few outliers he will make them good enough to challenge Gonzaga and keep whupping us.

[sancho]

That's true, but they have made the right hire for working around those challenges. And they still have been whupping us even with those limitations and a bad coach. I think Pope will make BYU cool again for LDS kids and with just those and a few outliers he will make them good enough to challenge Gonzaga and keep whupping us.

All he has to do is beat Gonzaga 1 out of 3 times to get an NCAA bid. We've seen it so many times. I'd love that kind of deal.

[mUUser]

…...the Final Four beckons.

That was one of the recruiting pitches to Frank Jackson. Reassemble the Lone Peak dream team to make a run at the FF. Obviously, he didn't buy it. My source is unassailable.

[Scorcho]

he'll have to adjust to smaller arenas on the road (stolen from twitter)

:)

[sancho]

he'll have to adjust to smaller arenas on the road (stolen from twitter)

:)

That's good stuff. I wish Twitter would realize that its true calling is to deliver Memes, Gifs, and other jokes.

[DrumNFeather]

Steve Alford is the leader in the clubhouse for the Nevada job.

[snafu]

That's true, but they have made the right hire for working around those challenges. And they still have been whupping us even with those limitations and a bad coach. I think Pope will make BYU cool again for LDS kids and with just those and a few outliers he will make them good enough to challenge Gonzaga and keep whupping us.

A little much I think. They beat us pretty good this last year but that hasn't been the norm lately like it was before LK.

[DrumNFeather]

Looks like Slocum is officially going to UNLV. Utes will be in the market for a new assistant...and it will be interesting to see if any players leave as a result.

[Old Standing ute]

Will they elevate Chris Jones, currently director of basketball operations, father of Rylan?

[LA Ute]

Will they elevate Chris Jones, currently director of basketball operations, father of Rylan?

He has good coaching credentials, doesn’t he? Still, LK needs an A-A assistant.

[SeattleUte]

A little much I think. They beat us pretty good this last year but that hasn't been the norm lately like it was before LK.

Uh, BYU has beaten us two years in a row.

[concerned]

He has good coaching credentials, doesn’t he? Still, LK needs an A-A assistant.


he needs an AAU assistant too.

[Irving Washington]

he needs an AAU assistant too.
He needs a good recruiter, whatever that involves, who will work on the player's egos. That's probably a natural for a good recruiter

[Utebiquitous]

He ought to reach out to Chris Burgess and convince him to return to Utah. Chris was a grad assistant with Larry before joining Pope at UVU. Terrific ties to SoCal and really throughout the West. Solid guy with some ambition. I would guess it will go to Jonesy though.

[UtahsMrSports]

Markham reporting that Donny Daniels may be a candidate to replace Slocum, but also might retire. I can't imagine a better hire, if there is any truth to it at all.

[Irving Washington]

Markham reporting that Donny Daniels may be a candidate to replace Slocum, but also might retire. I can't imagine a better hire, if there is any truth to it at all.
Daniels may be considering retirement because he doesn't have the energy. Great hire ten years ago, risky now.

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