Wooden Legacy thread

[Mormon Red Death]

First up.... Hawaii. The Utes favored by 9

[DrumNFeather]

Will get Seton Hall with a win.

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[Scorcho]

Will get Seton Hall with a win.

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man crush on Timmy Allen

[Mormon Red Death]

I wish topalovich could use the backboard

[Mormon Red Death]

Be nice if we could hit a free throw

[Scorcho]

I'd complain, but my expectations for this squad are pretty low. Larry seems to be playing everyone a handful of minutes still.

[Diehard Ute]

Parker Van Dyke struggles to be in the right place defensively.


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[Mormon Red Death]

Parker Van Dyke struggles to be in the right place defensively.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat's an understatement

[Diehard Ute]

I haven’t had the chance to watch college basketball this year.

Two thoughts.

1) The sheer number of whistles makes the game so hard to watch

2) Parker Van Dyke is just a mess defensively.


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[Mormon Red Death]

Why have van dyke on stepteau?

[Diehard Ute]

Why have van dyke on stepteau?

Half the time we were in Zone....and Parker seems to forget he’s a guard.


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[Scorcho]

turnovers, missed shots this has been brutal

[Diehard Ute]

PVD, Gach, Jones, Hendrix...someone needs to do something to deserve some playing time. I guess PVD hit a three, and Hendrix made 3 free throws.

Going into this season, I think we knew we would need Barefield to shed his all-or-nothing ways. I think we also knew, deep down, that he is who he is.

PVD’s 3 is negated by the 10+ he gave up on D


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[Mormon Red Death]

2 points so far in the first 6 minutes of the half

[Scorcho]

I'm blaming that chemical in turkey that makes you sleepy. I bet Hawaii had chicken or spam for dinner.

[DrumNFeather]

Will get Seton Hall with a win.

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkWhat I meant to say is Grand Canyon with a loss. Our saving grace here is that NW has a decent ranking and is also in the losers bracket...if we can find a way to beat GCU.

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[SeattleUte]

After a game like this, with a newly assembled and young team like this, you have to look for bright spots in the box score. Tonight it was Battin and Johnson.

[Mormon Red Death]

After a game like this, with a newly assembled and young team like this, you have to look for bright spots in the box score. Tonight it was Battin and Johnson.The key to this team is Barefield. If he is a no show like last night we will lose

[UTEopia]

I think it starts at the defensive end. Except for the last 5 minutes of the game it looked like most of the guys really weren't that committed to play tough defense. If we cannot play defense, we cannot win. We don't have consistent scorers in the half-court to get away with lackadaisical effort on defense.

I wonder with a young team whether playing a terrible team like MVSU gave them a false sense of confidence?

[SeattleUte]

The key to this team is Barefield. If he is a no show like last night we will lose

My point is, this team is a work in progress and is unlikely to go anywhere. So you need to find something else to interest you about it, like the progress of players who may return next season.

[chrisrenrut]

My point is, this team is a work in progress and is unlikely to go anywhere. So you need to find something else to interest you about it, like the progress of players who may return next season.

I agree. However, there are fans out there (Twitter, UFN) calling for Krystkowiak's job over this loss. I think it is way to early for that.

This may be the most talent Larry has ever put together. But I think this is a also a quintessential team that is going to take time to gel. There is talent, but Larry has to learn how to use them together, and they have to learn how to play with each other.

If we don't see improvement over the course of the season, then that may be an indictment of Larry's ability to coach a team, rather than just developing individual players.

[Old Standing ute]

It is the most talent, but it is not 1 & done freshmen talent, so it will take time before they are a good team. Plus, the seniors are not really leaders, so the freshmen are basically learning on their own. Sometimes there are 3 or 4 of them at one time on the court.
Good news they probably all are 4 year players, & if so they will be really good in 2-3 years.

All that being said: Chuck Jones is a disappointment. Really good athlete, not a really good basketball player. And PVD is not a point guard--he is catch & shoot only.

Best point guard is probably Goch. He & Vante need as many minutes as they can get.---(but that probably means fewer wins this year).

[SoCalPat]

I agree. However, there are fans out there (Twitter, UFN) calling for Krystkowiak's job over this loss. I think it is way to early for that.

This may be the most talent Larry has ever put together. But I think this is a also a quintessential team that is going to take time to gel. There is talent, but Larry has to learn how to use them together, and they have to learn how to play with each other.

If we don't see improvement over the course of the season, then that may be an indictment of Larry's ability to coach a team, rather than just developing individual players.

The frustration with Larry is over three things ...

1. His salary. He's ranked in the top 15 nationally in salary, and Utah is far from being one of the top 15 teams in the country. As for Larry needing time to find what works, that's a weak excuse at this level. I don't expect us to be in peak form right now, but I don't expect to have our doors blown off by a 200-plus ranked team from the Big West.

2. His scheduling the previous two years. We never should've been in the NIT with a talent like Kuzma, and we should've never been in the NIT with the experience we had last year (If Larry schedules up in those years and we make the NCAAs, these rough patches would be a little more acceptable.). He does get credit for scheduling up this year -- it will pay dividends with this team down the road.

3. The "bad" losses are starting to pile up. 1-17 Oregon State and San Francisco State in Kuzma's final year. Hawaii last night. And while not on the same plane, we've gone 1-and-done and lost to lower-seeded teams the last two years in Vegas.

It's been a while since the program over-delivered. Finishing ahead of media projections in league play is nice, but if the best we can get out of such "overachieving" years is the NIT, I can promise the grumbling will get louder. The unsettling thing for me is that we really did look like the 9th best team in the Pac-12 last night. Early returns tonight continue to send that message.

[Scorcho]

Dad joke warning: if you beat Grand Canyon do you advance to play Yellowstone?

[UtahsMrSports]

Any word on Hendrix?

[UtahsMrSports]

I love the move to start gach. Allows sed to play more off the ball. Hoping we can grow from here.

[Mormon Red Death]

I love the move to start gach. Allows sed to play more off the ball. Hoping we can grow from here.We should have played gach on the 5'9 guard from hawaii instead of pvd

[Old Standing ute]

Probably. He did foul out in 20 minutes in that game. Gach may be the best PG on the team, like OldStanding suggests, but it's a low bar. He doesn't have great control or handle, and he turns it over a lot. He went 8-8 from the line last night, which was refreshing after all the missed FTs vs Hawaii (the team was 19-22).

I want more rebounding out of Timmy Allen.

38 minutes for both Tillman and Barefield. I think that will be normal this season.

Topa with 6 rebounds in 10 minutes last night.

Is Battin the best of the freshmen?

PVD with 4 assists and only 1 turnover.

Was Jones really a JUCO player of the year?

It is a low bar-----but he will get better with experience, whereas Sedrick & PVD are not going to change.

Agree with you rpoints.

Hendrix?

[SeattleUte]

I agree. However, there are fans out there (Twitter, UFN) calling for Krystkowiak's job over this loss. I think it is way to early for that.

This may be the most talent Larry has ever put together. But I think this is a also a quintessential team that is going to take time to gel. There is talent, but Larry has to learn how to use them together, and they have to learn how to play with each other.

If we don't see improvement over the course of the season, then that may be an indictment of Larry's ability to coach a team, rather than just developing individual players.

Whether he remains after this season should depend on the progress of the younger players and whether they stay.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Whether he remains after this season should depend on the progress of the younger players and whether they stay.Perhaps the best 2-year recruiting span in program history, and yet I still fear we are in for yet another total rebuild next year.

[Mormon Red Death]

Utes +2.5 against northwestern today

[Scorcho]

Utes +2.5 against northwestern today

So far we have 6 turnovers and 4 points and a 1 point lead

[Scorcho]

10 turnovers now ... sigh

[Scorcho]

12 turnovers ... yikes

[Mormon Red Death]

We can't guard the 3

[U-Ute]

We can't guard the 3

Or the 2.

Or the FT line.

This team has a long way to go.

The rotation reminds me of a Jr Jazz team. It seems like Larry is just playing guys to see who will step up.

For me right now, I like: Gach, Hendrix, Battin, Topalovich

Not like: PVD, Jones

Meh: Barefield, Johnson, Tillman

Relative to expectations.

[NorthwestUteFan]

This isn't even a Jr Jazz team. This is a YMCA team.

[Diehard Ute]

This isn't even a Jr Jazz team. This is a YMCA team.

That’s because the Jazz are a Jr Jazz Team at the moment....


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[U-Ute]

Our starting lineup and 6th man.

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