Back to the Coliseum: Utah vs. USC 2019

[LA Ute]

I heard something interesting on Riley's show podcast. One analyst said that against Stanford, USC spread their o-line out - 2 feet between each lineman - so that Stanford’s edge rushers were farther away from USC’s young QB, Kedon Slovis. The idea was to give rushers like Anae more ground to cover before getting to Slovis. The analyst thought the goal was to give Slovis more time to get comfortable and allow him to get the ball out quickly.

I'm wondering if they will try that next Friday against the Utes. By then Kyle & Co. will have studied USC game film carefully, so Scalley and Whit will have the Utes ready. (Will they blitz, shoot gaps?) Then again, by the time USC plays us they'll already have played BYU. Maybe with another game under his belt Slovis won't need that extra time. Anyway, it will be interesting to watch the line of scrimmage next Friday.

[U-Ute]

BYU used to do that under Anae, so I'm sure we have some plan for it.

[hostile]

Hey, let’s not lose our focus on ID St. We have a game to win tomorrow. Then we can worry about the trojans.

[LA Ute]

Hey, let’s not lose our focus on ID St. We have a game to win tomorrow. Then we can worry about the trojans.

All Utah players are blocked from this site. No worries. Their minds will be on the game. Also, any UB5 reader who cheers less loudly tomorrow because he/she is looking beyond Idaho State will be severely chastized.

[Mormon Red Death]

Will this be the first time ever we are favored in the coliseum?

[LA Ute]

Will this be the first time ever we are favored in the coliseum?

Weren't we favored going in to the 2015 game when Travis threw 3 pick-sixes to the same USC linebacker? (Or was it only two?) I remember that on game day all the USC fans I met were telling me they hoped we wouldn't destroy them. That game contributed to my Ute Fan PTSD.

Having said all that, this year things feel different.

[Applejack]

Weren't we favored going in to the 2015 game when Travis threw 3 pick-sixes to the same USC linebacker? (Or was it only two?) I remember that on game day all the USC fans I met were telling me they hoped we wouldn't destroy them. That game contributed to my Ute Fan PTSD.

Having said all that, this year things feel different.

Yes, we were favored (we were #4 in the country). And Travis threw three ints to the same linebacker, but only one was a pick6. It was a long, hot day in the coliseum.

[LA Ute]

Yes, we were favored (we were #4 in the country). And Travis threw three ints to the same linebacker, but only one was a pick6. It was a long, hot day in the coliseum.

For some reason I thought it was 3 pick sixes. That’s what PTSD can do to a guy’s mind.

Here’s the recap of the game. I had forgotten that we were 6-0 and they were 3-3.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/college-football/2015/10/25/usc-trojans-beat-utah-utes

What a difference four years makes. In 2017 we almost beat USC on the last play of the game. This year we have an experienced, reliable quarterback who doesn’t do mindless things, and a more talented team that’s just a lot more confident and experienced. I like our chances.

[SeattleUte]

For some reason I thought it was 3 pick sixes. That’s what PTSD can do to a guy’s mind.

Here’s the recap of the game. I had forgotten that we were 6-0 and they were 3-3.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/college-football/2015/10/25/usc-trojans-beat-utah-utes

What a difference four years makes. In 2017 we almost beat USC on the last play of the game. This year we have an experienced, reliable quarterback who doesn’t do mindless things, and a more talented team that’s just a lot more confident and experienced. I like our chances.

It’s possible to be quite philosophical about this game. USC doesn’t appear to be too good, and it’s got a true freshman quarterback who can get rattled by the Utes’ defense. And last season we dominated them. But with the schedule so far, we really don’t know how good the Utes really are. If they’re all they’re cracked up to be, if they’re legitimately no. 8 on the power rankings, the Utes should dominate USC in LA. That’s what Georgia or Auburn would do. So it’s finally time for the Utes to rise in the rankings by means other than a positive feedback loop from the BYU win and BYU’s surprising victories the past two weeks. The Utes are what they are. And we’ll find out if they are as hyped and what we’ve hoped.

[LA Ute]

It’s possible to be quite philosophical about this game. USC doesn’t appear to be too good, and it’s got a true freshman quarterback who can get rattled by the Utes’ defense. And last season we dominated them. But with the schedule so far, we really don’t know how good the Utes really are. If they’re all they’re cracked up to be, if they’re legitimately no. 8 on the power rankings, the Utes should dominate USC in LA. That’s what Georgia or Auburn would do. So it’s finally time for the Utes to rise in the rankings by means other than a positive feedback loop from the BYU win and BYU’s surprising victories the past two weeks. The Utes are what they are. And we’ll find out if they are as hyped and what we’ve hoped.

Well said.

[sancho]

Having said all that, this year things feel different.

I feel badly that I don't think things feel different. We sure look a lot like all the other Utah teams of the past 5 years to me. We have an underpowered offense that relies on the run game, and we will in general depend on our defense to win games.

I'm not complaining. We've had some great teams in the past 5 years. We've been ranked more often than not, and we've deserved those rankings at the end of the season.

We may win the Pac-12. Any of those recent good teams were capable of winning the conference, but they all came up short. This could be the team that gets over the hump. What does feel different is that the conference feels rather weak.

Anyway, neither a win nor a loss this Friday would be very surprising. We are very slight favorites in Vegas, and USC is slightly favored by ESPN's computers.

[LA Ute]

I feel badly that I don't think things feel different. We sure look a lot like all the other Utah teams of the past 5 years to me. We have an underpowered offense that relies on the run game, and we will in general depend on our defense to win games.

I'm not complaining. We've had some great teams in the past 5 years. We've been ranked more often than not, and we've deserved those rankings at the end of the season.

We may win the Pac-12. Any of those recent good teams were capable of winning the conference, but they all came up short. This could be the team that gets over the hump. What does feel different is that the conference feels rather weak.

Anyway, neither a win nor a loss this Friday would be very surprising. We are very slight favorites in Vegas, and USC is slightly favored by ESPN's computers.

My gut feeling is just that, a gut feeling. My mind rebels against getting too carried away. What we have this year that we did not have in the last 5 years are:



A deeply experienced D-1 OC.




A senior quarterback who's not perfect, but has more athleticism than we've seen at Utah in some time, maybe ever; and who doesn't tend to make stupid mistakes.




Our most athletic set of receivers ever.


So there's reason to be optimistic, but as Seattle said, we don't know enough yet.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Weren't we favored going in to the 2015 game when Travis threw 3 pick-sixes to the same USC linebacker? (Or was it only two?) I remember that on game day all the USC fans I met were telling me they hoped we wouldn't destroy them. That game contributed to my Ute Fan PTSD.

Having said all that, this year things feel different.


Yes, we were favored (we were #4 in the country). And Travis threw three ints to the same linebacker, but only one was a pick6. It was a long, hot day in the coliseum.

This didn’t sound right, and for once it seems my memory hasn’t betrayed me. (Which my wife would be really disappointed in knowing that memory concerning obscure random football trivia is much better than my “I most certainly DID tell you that” memory.)

Anyway, Google has helped sharpen my memory. I had thought Sark had been fired leading up to the game, similar to how Kiffin had been fired two years earlier right before the Utah game. Well, he was fired 12 days before and Helton had lost to #17 Notre Dame by 10 in his first game as head coach the Saturday before. For unexplained reasons, the line came out on Sunday as USC -3. And I remember it moving further out over the week. I have a friend here who’s a professional sports gambler (and Utah alum) who I had randomly ran into that week and I asked him what do the sports books know that the rest of us didn’t?

https://fansided.com/2015/10/18/utah-vs-usc-2015-betting-odds-trojans-favorite/

So, here we are, two years later. But this time we were the sport book favorites and that number has moved further in our favor throughout the day since it was released this morning.


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[U-Ute]

We need to hit them early and make all those 5* guys start worrying about their NFL careers.

[UTEopia]

I believe that as usual we will run to set up pass. We will not change who we are and what we do well. Go Utes!

[Applejack]

This didn’t sound right, and for once it seems my memory hasn’t betrayed me. (Which my wife would be really disappointed in knowing that memory concerning obscure random football trivia is much better than my “I most certainly DID tell you that” memory.)

Anyway, Google has helped sharpen my memory. I had thought Sark had been fired leading up to the game, similar to how Kiffin had been fired two years earlier right before the Utah game. Well, he was fired 12 days before and Helton had lost to #17 Notre Dame by 10 in his first game as head coach the Saturday before. For unexplained reasons, the line came out on Sunday as USC -3. And I remember it moving further out over the week. I have a friend here who’s a professional sports gambler (and Utah alum) who I had randomly ran into that week and I asked him what do the sports books know that the rest of us didn’t?

https://fansided.com/2015/10/18/utah-vs-usc-2015-betting-odds-trojans-favorite/

So, here we are, two years later. But this time we were the sport book favorites and that number has moved further in our favor throughout the day since it was released this morning.


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I could have sworn the Utes were favored, but you are right; they weren't. And I agree with Sancho; I have yet to be convinced of this team's superiority to past Utah teams.

[LA Ute]

I have yet to be convinced of this team's superiority to past Utah teams.

I think anyone who has been watching for the past few years agrees. I still expect a 9-3 or 8-4 season. I still like our chances against USC.

[Rocker Ute]

I think anyone who has been watching for the past few years agrees. I still expect a 9-3 or 8-4 season. I still like our chances against USC.

You are all well-trained ute fans. For us in any sport it always feels like disappointment lurks just around the corner.

I will say about Urban, he inspired massive confidence for me with his teams. I always went into a game expecting to win.

[LA Ute]

From Kragthorpe’s report on Whit’s presser today:


Only twice in eight meetings, however, have the Utes been overwhelmed by USC. In 2012, the Trojans led 38-21 before the Utes added a last-minute touchdown. Yet USC led by only three points after three quarters. The Trojans won 42-24 in Los Angeles in 2015, although the No. 3 Utes were ahead 21-7 before “throwing three interceptions to the same linebacker,” as Whittingham accurately recalled.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/09/16/utes-feeling-fresh/

I had forgotten that we were up 21-7 before those picks began. I was at the game, too. I may be repressing my memories. Who would blame me?

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

From Kragthorpe’s report on Whit’s presser today:



https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/09/16/utes-feeling-fresh/

I had forgotten that we were up 21-7 before those picks began. I was at the game, too. I may be repressing my memories. Who would blame me?

I'm such the "Actually" meme personified in this thread.

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[LA Ute]

You are all well-trained ute fans. For us in any sport it always feels like disappointment lurks just around the corner.

I will say about Urban, he inspired massive confidence for me with his teams. I always went into a game expecting to win.

Different style of play, and in fairness, he did inherit a first string of excellent athletes. Kragthorpe lays out Whit’s philosophy:


A comedian once described football as short segments of violence, in between committee meetings. The description was more accurate when huddling was a standard part of the game.
Utah coach Kyle Whittingham believes in that old-school approach. In an era of fast-paced football, with many offenses designed to run plays as quickly as possible, the No. 10 Utes are defying the trend. They huddle frequently, effectively shortening games for both their offensive and defensive players.

Whittingham is convinced that strategy helps his team — especially during a short week leading up to a Friday game, as in the case of Utah’s Pac-12 opener at USC.

Playing slower “reduces the wear and tear on your players,” Whittingham said Monday, during his weekly news conference. “That's something that matters. People say it doesn't matter. It does matter.”

Utah used a no-huddle, fast-paced offense in 2014, when Whittingham hired Dave Christensen as his offensive coordinator. Whittingham dialed back the tempo in the middle of that season, however, and has stuck with a more traditional approach since then, with three subsequent play-callers. Current coordinator Andy Ludwig’s scheme requires substitutions of personnel groups and pre-snap decisions by quarterback Tyler Huntley. Although the Utes have not been penalized for delay of game this season, they do take their time between plays.

Utah’s defense has played its part in getting extra rest, as well. The Utes have shut down BYU, Northern Illinois and Idaho State in the second halves of their three wins, repeatedly forcing punts and getting takeaways. The result is the Utes have defended only 159 plays, the fewest in the country for a team that has played three games. Idaho State’s offense ran only 48 plays, gaining 116 yards.

Utah’s 341 total plays are markedly fewer than USC’s 437 plays. Factoring in how Utah’s starters were on the sidelines for most of Saturday’s second half of a 31-0 win over ISU, Whittingham said, “We feel pretty fresh.”

It’s Kyleball, and we should expect nothing more or less. Before anyone gets upset, this is not a criticism of Kyle, just an attempt to describe his offensive philosophy the way others see it and the way Kyle himself describes it. It’s an approach that generally works quite well. I do think that claims that Kyle really doesn’t get involved in the offense ignore this type of philosophy, which Utah has followed for some time, regardless of who the offensive coordinator is.

[U-Ute]

You are all well-trained ute fans. For us in any sport it always feels like disappointment lurks just around the corner.

I will say about Urban, he inspired massive confidence for me with his teams. I always went into a game expecting to win.

This team has a swagger about them that reminds me of that 2004 team. I never felt confident about any game in 2008.

[LA Ute]

I'm such the "Actually" meme personified in this thread.

Wow. I guess Kraqthorpe got it wrong. I honestly was surprised to see any claim that we were ever head by that margin.

[concerned]

It wasn't a comedian:

“Football combines two of the worst things in American life. It is violence punctuated by committee meetings.”― George Will

[Diehard Ute]

Different style of play, and in fairness, he did inherit a first string of excellent athletes. Kragthorpe lays out Whit’s philosophy:



It’s Kyleball, and we should expect nothing more or less. Before anyone gets upset, this is not a criticism of Kyle, just an attempt to describe his offensive philosophy the way others see it and the way Kyle himself describes it. It’s an approach that generally works quite well. I do think that claims that Kyle really doesn’t get involved in the offense ignore this type of philosophy, which Utah has followed for some time, regardless of who the offensive coordinator is.

Kyle explained it a bit more in his presser today.

Someone asked about the short week and what it means. Kyle said physically not much. Because we aren’t going at light speed our guys are playing less snaps and thus are more fresh.

He said over the course of a season an extra 20-30 snaps a game equates to playing 2-3 more games. I hadn’t really thought about it that way, it’s a unique thought process.


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[LA Ute]

It wasn't a comedian:

“Football combines two of the worst things in American life. It is violence punctuated by committee meetings.”

― George Will

Some people find George Will funny. He also said, "Baseball is Heaven's gift to mortals," and "Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal." I think he likes baseball better than football.

[concerned]

Some people find George Will funny. He also said, "Baseball is Heaven's gift to mortals," and "Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal." I think he likes baseball better than football.


Will is very witty. No question he loves baseball and hates football. I agree with him. Baseball is one of my three favorite things, along with watching paint dry and grass grow.

[SeattleUte]

Will is very witty. No question he loves baseball and hates football. I agree with him. Baseball is one of my three favorite things, along with watching paint dry and grass grow.

Loving baseball is an intellectual's thing. Sort of like "progressives" who drive Volvos and Subarus and haven't cared much about sports love soccer all of a sudden. I'm not too interested in efforts to define themselves that way. But I went through a phase where I loved George Will, when I was a youth.

I think basketball is clearly superior to all, for many reasons, but I'm in the unfortunate situation in which my town kicked out our NBA team and my alma mater college programs are a mess and not likely to right themselves soon.

[UTEopia]

Loving baseball is an intellectual's thing. Sort of like "progressives" who drive Volvos and Subarus and haven't cared much about sports love soccer all of a sudden. I'm not too interested in efforts to define themselves that way. But I went through a phase where I loved George Will, when I was a youth.

I think basketball is clearly superior to all, for many reasons, but I'm in the unfortunate situation in which my town kicked out our NBA team and my alma mater college programs are a mess and not likely to right themselves soon.

Basketball might have been superior at some point, but the NBA has turned a great team game into something I can no longer watch.

[LA Ute]

Saw this on Facebook, from Eric Lund. It has the ring of truth:


Scouting Report on SC: It has the most talented athletes of any program in the PAC. This is a match up problem for most teams to overcome. However, SC is overly reliant on its athletic prowess and this has resulted in its systemic lack of discipline and a program built on entitlement. Receivers don't run strong, sharp routes, instead they rely on quickness, speed, and jumping ability. They also are poor run and pass blockers. The d-line similarly is undisciplined and doesn't fill the proper gaps allowing for holes to open up. SC can be worn down late in the game and is prone to making mistakes. Because of this, irrespective of the high level of talent, SC won't win the PAC and is susceptible to other losses. I see Utah exploiting these weaknesses on Friday night.

I believe that if we win, it will be because we played smart and disciplined and they did not. If an Urban Meyer type ever becomes HC at USC, success against them will become much more difficult for us and for the rest of the PAC-12.

[Applejack]

Basketball might have been superior at some point, but the NBA has turned a great team game into something I can no longer watch.

Not to derail this thread more than it already has been, but I will never understand this argument. The NBA is SOOOOOO much better than the product they had in the 90s and 00s. I mean, teams couldn't shoot back then! They also did dumb, boring stuff like throw it down low to some big post guy that wasn't skilled. The NBA today is so much more team oriented (watch the Warriors, Raptors, Jazz, etc). And, everyone can shoot! If you watch the great Jazz teams, you'll be shocked how bad the shooting is: one good shooter (Hornacek) who can't do much else, one pg (Stockton) that doesn't shoot for some reason even though he shoots around 50% fg, a terrible shooting sf who is a good defender (Russell), a power forward that shoots the worst shots in basketball (20 footers) but he makes a lot of them, and a center (Ostertag, Foster, Carr) that is a waste of space. Nowadays you would never have a championship level team that starts BRuss and Ostertag. The NBA from the 90s is the stone age.

[concerned]

Saw this on Facebook, from Eric Lund. It has the ring of truth:



I believe that if we win, it will be because we played smart and disciplined and they did not. If an Urban Meyer type ever becomes HC at USC, success against them will become much more difficult for us and for the rest of the PAC-12.

obviously USC has an 18 year old qb, who will play better at home than on the road, but is very inexperienced and have difficulty reading defenses under pressure. I also heard somebody say that USC's athletes don't really fit Graham Harrell's air raid system. USC has athletes who overpower you--qb's who can throw long and receivers who can go up and catch and then race you to the end zone. they are designed for big flashy chunk plays that get lots of yardage. The air raid offense is for 6 and 7 yard play after play. this person said those were open all day against the Y, but USC kept wanting to overpower the Y with big play after big play and it didn't work.

Geez i hope we win this.

[UTEopia]

Not to derail this thread more than it already has been, but I will never understand this argument. The NBA is SOOOOOO much better than the product they had in the 90s and 00s. I mean, teams couldn't shoot back then! They also did dumb, boring stuff like throw it down low to some big post guy that wasn't skilled. The NBA today is so much more team oriented (watch the Warriors, Raptors, Jazz, etc). And, everyone can shoot! If you watch the great Jazz teams, you'll be shocked how bad the shooting is: one good shooter (Hornacek) who can't do much else, one pg (Stockton) that doesn't shoot for some reason even though he shoots around 50% fg, a terrible shooting sf who is a good defender (Russell), a power forward that shoots the worst shots in basketball (20 footers) but he makes a lot of them, and a center (Ostertag, Foster, Carr) that is a waste of space. Nowadays you would never have a championship level team that starts BRuss and Ostertag. The NBA from the 90s is the stone age.

I guess I just don't like constant pick and roll and one on one.

[Rocker Ute]

Saw this on Facebook, from Eric Lund. It has the ring of truth:



I believe that if we win, it will be because we played smart and disciplined and they did not. If an Urban Meyer type ever becomes HC at USC, success against them will become much more difficult for us and for the rest of the PAC-12.

I read something after the Stanford game that USC had spaced its OL a bit wider than normal to buy time for their Frosh QB. I read that and said, "PLEASE do that against Utah." I predict that Utah will be in his face early to force him to make mistakes and ultimately force the run (like BYU did) and then they'll stack the box.

[Sullyute]

I read something after the Stanford game that USC had spaced its OL a bit wider than normal to buy time for their Frosh QB. I read that and said, "PLEASE do that against Utah." I predict that Utah will be in his face early to force him to make mistakes and ultimately force the run (like BYU did) and then they'll stack the box.

They did the same against BYU. Huge spacing on the line, and K. Tonga schooled their center most of the game.

[Applejack]

Two days until pac season! I'll be in the house to watch the Utes win by 45 in the Coliseum!

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Pretty crazy to see stuff like this coming from out of the USC camp. I find that I have to pinch myself from time to time.

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[SoCalPat]

Not to derail this thread more than it already has been, but I will never understand this argument. The NBA is SOOOOOO much better than the product they had in the 90s and 00s. I mean, teams couldn't shoot back then! They also did dumb, boring stuff like throw it down low to some big post guy that wasn't skilled. The NBA today is so much more team oriented (watch the Warriors, Raptors, Jazz, etc). And, everyone can shoot! If you watch the great Jazz teams, you'll be shocked how bad the shooting is: one good shooter (Hornacek) who can't do much else, one pg (Stockton) that doesn't shoot for some reason even though he shoots around 50% fg, a terrible shooting sf who is a good defender (Russell), a power forward that shoots the worst shots in basketball (20 footers) but he makes a lot of them, and a center (Ostertag, Foster, Carr) that is a waste of space. Nowadays you would never have a championship level team that starts BRuss and Ostertag. The NBA from the 90s is the stone age.

This. Not up for debate. I think the argument made to the contrary is made by people who could never play, never did play, at any level.

[Applejack]

Pretty crazy to see stuff like this coming from out of the USC camp. I find that I have to pinch myself from time to time.

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yeah, I'm not sure I buy this. I mean, USC is coming off a loss to BYU. That must hurt! I mean, it must, right? I don't really remember, I was so young back in those days.

I would say that USC's d-line should dominate our O-line. As good as Moss is, he was hit in the backfield about a dozen times against Idaho State. And I assume USC has better guys on the d-line than Idaho State. The unit that has worried my the most this year is the O-line. We are super duper thin on the line, and some of the guys are really raw (Maea). I was hoping that they'd have gotten their feet under them now, but no such luck. I am really worried about the d-line being in our backfield all balmy evening.

[Applejack]

And giving the edge to our special teams? That is a dead give away that this is a troll job.

[LA Ute]

this. not up for debate. I think the argument made to the contrary is made by people who could never play, never did play, at any level.

lol.

[chrisrenrut]

This. Not up for debate. I think the argument made to the contrary is made by people who could never play, never did play, at any level.

This is such an arrogant response. Your opinion is not up for debate? Any one who disagrees could not and did not play at ANY level?

Do you think Majerus would agree? Do you think he would prefer the constant step-back threes of Golden State, or the blatant foul-seeking of Harden and Paul, rather than the pick-and-roll of Stockton to Malone, or the teamwork of the early-00's Pistons championship team, or the fundamentals of the Spurs multiple championship teams?

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Someone posted an interesting stat to the UteNation FB group yesterday that was pretty interesting, if true. (I haven't taken the time to verify it.) Since 2014 in the Utah-USC game, the first team to 14 points has lost.

[Senioritis]

This gave me the pee shivers.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27654632/how-kyle-whittingham-building-unlikely-pac-12-power-utah

Go Freaking Utes!

[Sullyute]

This gave me the pee shivers.

I have no idea what that is?


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27654632/how-kyle-whittingham-building-unlikely-pac-12-power-utah!

Agree, one of the better articles I have read on Whitt in quite some time.

[Applejack]

This gave me the pee shivers.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27654632/how-kyle-whittingham-building-unlikely-pac-12-power-utah

Go Freaking Utes!

Ki-yi! Bring it home, baby!

[chrisrenrut]

This gave me the pee shivers.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27654632/how-kyle-whittingham-building-unlikely-pac-12-power-utah

Go Freaking Utes!

Great article, very well written. I love having Kyle as our coach, and the team and program he has built.

[sancho]

Red, white, and black is not a good start for us.

[chrisrenrut]

With team’s defense will show up first?

[sancho]

With team’s defense will show up first?

Not sure, but we ain't winning a shootout. We either tighten this up or we lose.

[chrisrenrut]

Snaps are coming out a bit high.

[chrisrenrut]

We trying to get Covey killed?

[sancho]

These guys see holding everywhere. Every contact is a potential hold.

[Mormon Red Death]

That hold call soon Ford was horseshit.. he pancaked his guy

[Sullyute]

USC receivers are amazing.

[chrisrenrut]

Why haven’t we seen Wilmore run the ball? Almost everyone else has. Wilmore could be motivated, since he originally committed to USC.

edit: as soon as I posted this, Wilmore comes in.

[sancho]

Huntley has been fantastic this half. They are abusing our offensive line, and he's still making plays.

[sancho]

Why were we going up the gut anyway? There's no way that was going in for us, and we've been beating them on the edges all half.

What a huge play.

[sancho]

From Kamrani: "refs have 142 yards on 15 flags."

[Sullyute]

Why were we going up the gut anyway? There's no way that was going in for us, and we've been beating them on the edges all half.

What a huge play.

Huge swing of momentum for USC.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

From Kamrani: "refs have 142 yards on 15 flags."

15 flags and two totally jacked fingers.


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[Scorcho]

hated that first half, sloppy.

can we please get some more edge runs

[sancho]

Wouldn't it be cool if there was a way to get Covey involved without putting his life in danger?

[Diehard Ute]

Sean O’Connell is reporting Moss has an AC separation


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[sancho]

They have constant pressure on Huntley, and we can't get anywhere near Fink.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Blackmon. Goodness.


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[chrisrenrut]

They have constant pressure on Huntley, and we can't get anywhere near Fink.

I don’t remember hearing Anae’s name at all so far tonight.

[chrisrenrut]

I don’t remember hearing Anae’s name at all so far tonight.

Redacted!

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

I have a bad feeling about having to settle for three there.


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[sancho]

I have a bad feeling about having to settle for three there.


I think we go for it on 4th and 1 there, but after losing yards on 3rd...gotta kick.

We know what the storyline is if we lose...missed opportunities from within the 5.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Well, I guess we found the end zone.


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[sancho]

Nonexistence of our pass protection is the story of the game for us. (and the missed goal line opportunities, of course)

[chrisrenrut]

Huntley has happy feet. Very quick to take off instead of scrambling and keeping his eyes downfield.

[LA Ute]

Unexpected and disappointing. Let’s all pour the Kool-Aid down the drain and move on.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Nonexistence of our pass protection is the story of the game for us. (and the missed goal line opportunities, of course)

These two things are one and the same.


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[sancho]

These two things are one and the same.


Yeah, I guess so. Left 11 points on the 1 yard line. The lack of protection is what led to the happy feet mentioned earlier as well.

[chrisrenrut]

Yeah, I guess so. Left 11 points on the 1 yard line. The lack of protection is what led to the happy feet mentioned earlier as well.

A hold on the OL also pushed us back towards the goal line right before the safety.

[Scorcho]

I hate football

[LA Ute]

Seemed like our receivers couldn’t get
open. Tyler often had plenty of time.

[sancho]

Seemed like our receivers couldn’t get
open. Tyler often had plenty of time.

You and I just watched different football games. Tyler had no time tonight. He was pressured constantly. He often made something of that with his feet.

[LA Ute]

You and I just watched different football games. Tyler had no time tonight. He was pressured constantly. He often made something of that with his feet.

Maybe I’ll watch some of my recording of the game and see if I agree.

[sancho]

Maybe I’ll watch some of my recording of the game and see if I agree.

They certainly got a lot more pressure on Huntley than we got on Fink. We couldn't get to him at all, and that gave him the time he needed to beat us.

[LA Ute]

Tyler is a gamer. He showed that tonight.

[LA Ute]

They certainly got a lot more pressure on Huntley than we got on Fink. We couldn't get to him at all, and that gave him the time he needed to beat us.

True.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Huntley has happy feet. Very quick to take off instead of scrambling and keeping his eyes downfield.

Huntley looked a lot like sophomore Huntley the second half. But given the state of the o-line, I don’t really blame him.


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[sancho]

Huntley looked a lot like sophomore Huntley the second half. But given the state of the o-line, I don’t really blame him.


Yeah, but he's also the main reason we were in that game. He made the great throw after they went up 7-0. He avoided one million sacks, and he converted many of those scrambles into 1st downs.

[LA Ute]

Pregame, someone hired a plane to fly a banner over the Coliseum last night. It was fun to watch and lasted a good 30 minutes. In fact, the whole outing was fun until the game started.

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[UTEopia]

That was so brutal an ass kicking that my butt hurts. The OL was destroyed and exposed and the DB's were torched. Special just went to relying on USC to lose 1 more game than we lose to even win the South.

I have no criticism of Huntley. The OL was terrible. He should probably have been sacked 10 times.

[SeattleUte]

USC has better players. Our guys have heart, they are more talented. It’s always been that way, and probably always will be.

We probably got a bad break injuring their true freshman quarterback starter. He could not possibly have had as good a game as this third-stringer who was chafing on the bench for three years.

[LA Ute]

USC has better players. Our guys have heart, they are more talented. It’s always been that way, and probably always will be.

We probably got a bad break injuring their true freshman quarterback starter. He could not possibly have had as good a game as this third-stringer who was chafing on the bench for three years.

Yes to everything you say here.

[Diehard Ute]

Pregame, someone hired a plane to fly a banner over the Coliseum last night. It was fun to watch and lasted a good 30 minutes. In fact, the whole outing was fun until the game started.

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The athletic department does that at most away games.


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[LA Ute]

The athletic department does that at most away games.


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Odd. At the tailgate all the athletics people were asking who was behind it. Including Harlan’s right-hand man.

[Diehard Ute]

Odd. At the tailgate all the athletics people were asking who was behind it. Including Harlan’s right-hand man.

That is strange. It’s flown at almost every away game, and often gets tweeted by the U

[emoji2371]


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[SoCalPat]

This is such an arrogant response. Your opinion is not up for debate? Any one who disagrees could not and did not play at ANY level?

Do you think Majerus would agree? Do you think he would prefer the constant step-back threes of Golden State, or the blatant foul-seeking of Harden and Paul, rather than the pick-and-roll of Stockton to Malone, or the teamwork of the early-00's Pistons championship team, or the fundamentals of the Spurs multiple championship teams?

I think Golden State passes the ball extremely well, and Majerus would be singing Steve Kerr's praises on spacing. I also don't think Majerus would approve of hand-checking as an appropriate defensive measure, and the game has gotten significantly better since they cracked down on that.

[LA Ute]

That is strange. It’s flown at almost every away game, and often gets tweeted by the U

[emoji2371]


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I wouldn’t know. The L.A. games are the only away games I go to. I showed the photo of the banner to Manny Hendrix and the new head of athletics development, and to others, and they were delighted and asked me if I knew who was responsible. Maybe they didn’t know. Anyway, it’s really a fun thing for Utes fans to see. Which was my point.

[DrumNFeather]

Odd. At the tailgate all the athletics people were asking who was behind it. Including Harlan’s right-hand man.

Indirect name drop by LA Ute! ;)

[Diehard Ute]

I wouldn’t know. The L.A. games are the only away games I go to. I showed the photo of the banner to Manny Hendrix and the new head of athletics development, and to others, and they were delighted and asked me if I knew who was responsible. Maybe they didn’t know. Anyway, it’s really a fun thing for Utes fans to see. Which was my point.

I’m just curious who is doing it, cause I assumed it was the U.

The exact same banner flew at the Pac-12 championship game last year

It’s cool regardless


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[LA Ute]

I’m just curious who is doing it, cause I assumed it was the U.

The exact same banner flew at the Pac-12 championship game last year

It’s cool regardless


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I’ll see what I can find out.